Let's Create a Better Product Hunt
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Let's Create a Better Product Hunt
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Re: Let's Create a Better Product Hunt
#2This is awesome that you're stepping up to this chalkenge. Stuff like this is what I truly love about the internet.
Re: Let's Create a Better Product Hunt
#3The web app behind PH is trivial. You still need a human to curate and build hype around the thing, and therein lies the problem. PH is rigged because Silicon Valley is rigged.
Re: Let's Create a Better Product Hunt
#4I don't think this is going to work. First, ProductHunt and HN are both basically fine as is. Second, the root cause of any issues that both have is basically the same -- almost no one reads or votes on stories from the new page, and the handful that do have all sorts of biases. The reason these communities are able to function despite this is that they have a combination of paid staff and trusted volunteers.
Third, the only way to significantly improve upon these sorts of communities would be to build them on the block chain. But the technology to do that doesn't yet exist.
Re: Let's Create a Better Product Hunt
#5Great initiative. I signed up. Producthunt is now forever flawed. Hopefully we can build a more open community together.
Re: Let's Create a Better Product Hunt
#6The web app behind PH is trivial. You still need a human to curate and build hype around the thing, and therein lies the problem. PH is rigged because Silicon Valley is rigged.
Really? I think the Reddit model works pretty well. It's based on (as far we know) organic upvotes from users. It's also engineered so it makes it very difficult to game with upvote brigades and such.
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#7As the person who started the Product Hunt beatdown last thread, and would like nothing more than to see a good PH competitor, I regrettably have a few issues with this.
1. The hypothetical example you give about the Financial Times writing favorable stories for investors is an example of conflict of interest, which is a different issue than the elitist exclusivity discussed last thread. (And much more gray)
2. As noted in the previous thread, both Reddit and Hacker News are transparent in terms of submission moderation, which is what is being proposed here. (Albeit less modern)
3. Having an anonymous account post this Google Doc does not build trust in that you could build a competitor. There is more to building a link aggregator ranking system than following a Rails tutorial.
4. Having random people come together to build an idea just because they can doesn't work well. That's why Idea Sundays stopped on HN.
My dream startup would be an optimized link aggregator; the use of upvotes as a statistic for quality is why I spent so much time doing data analysis on Reddit and HN data. But this isn't the way to build a competitor.
Re: Let's Create a Better Product Hunt
#8We already have one: Hacker News
Re: Let's Create a Better Product Hunt
#9The web app behind PH is trivial. You still need a human to curate and build hype around the thing, and therein lies the problem. PH is rigged because Silicon Valley is rigged.
Really? I think the Reddit model works pretty well. It's based on (as far we know) organic upvotes from users. It's also engineered so it makes it very difficult to game with upvote brigades and such.
That's a decent argument for just building a subreddit.
Re: Let's Create a Better Product Hunt
#10This seems like an unnecessarily negative way to pitch a positive service:
* anyone who missed the story on HN today would have no idea what this was about,
* leading with accusations that PH is an "elitist/bro community" is needless antagonism, but most of all,
* you're pitching a non-conflict of interest alternative to PH without revealing anything about yourself.