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Angular 2 Beta released

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Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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Lets see what happens to react. I hear React is building in support for Relay, React Native, other facebook stuff. I Edit; Sorry i meant Conway's Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_law

Isn't Godwin's law that any online discussion will eventually lead to someone comparing something or someone to Nazi Germany if given enough time?

Yes, it is; I'm not sure what comparison 'dustingetz was trying to make.

Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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When people point out that Google is behind Angular, they fail to mention that the level of investment is nowhere near that of Facebook in React.

I've been loving using React. Building in components is fantastic, and it just feels like writing Javascript. That's a win in my books.

Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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Angular size really impressive: angular2.min.js - 568K Version 1.4.* angular.min.js - 148K File size really increased (Angular1 * 4 == Angular2), if compared with first version. Something went wrong.

Unless it has been cached (from visiting other sites), this is terrible first time user experience for those with slow connection.

Not sure why all the down votes?!

Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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Lets see what happens to react. I hear React is building in support for Relay, React Native, other facebook stuff. I Edit; Sorry i meant Conway's Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_law

Isn't Godwin's law that any online discussion will eventually lead to someone comparing something or someone to Nazi Germany if given enough time?

Yes, that's Godwin's. Not sure which "law" the original intended, but may be an example of Cunningham's Law.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law

Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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I've been using TypeScript for a few months now and have been so impressed with it that I am beginning to favor Angular 2 over React just because of Angular 2's TS integration. TypeScript basically made JavaScript more powerful and a whole lot more fun for me. I feel so much better about slinging around parameters now that I know my IDE will catch type/parameter mismatches before I run the code, before I build it, ev…

Welcome to the programming world, js developers.

I never jumped on the CoffeeScript bandwagon .. I know people love it, just not me. Hence unlikely I will try TypeScript.

Despite all its glaring flaws, javascript is an insanely productive language due to excellent mix of features. To improve upon that Id need to go to lisp / clojure [ but it lacks wide commercial acceptance .. not a criticism at all ]

I'm actually wary of using the newer additions to javascript language - ES6, Promises and arrow notation don't seem that much of a win to me, I'm very sceptical of new being good in language design...

whereas I really love Ramda.js as a general underscore / lodash replacement.

Productivity seems more a function of how we structure our code [ eg. keep state so we can jump back into where we were in the web app, thus iterate easily - as per the Om approach ] and thinking functionally.. rather than language syntax additions.

I don't see the need for an IDE .. they tend to come into their own when Your.ColourfulAndCompleteMethodNames are so long they need auto-completion. Thats the beauty of javascript [ and lisp etc ] we should fight to keep things small and terse.

Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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Uh did Angular not get the memo that people hate the new syntax and typescript? This is how you turn the most popular javascript MVC framework to nothing.

From what I've seen, there are a lot of vocal proponents of Typescript, but not many vocal detractors. Which of those is the actual majority is hard to day. I have a theory that many of the people who like Typescript came from a statically-typed background (Java, C#, etc) and don't like the loosely-typed world of Javascript. More speculation: People who came to front-end development by choice are happier with Javascr…

Don't forget people who came from desktop ui or game development and have had code completion and navigation for years and can't handle the slowness and unreliability of navigating and developing a js codebase.

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Welcome to the programming world, js developers.

I never jumped on the CoffeeScript bandwagon .. I know people love it, just not me. Hence unlikely I will try TypeScript. Despite all its glaring flaws, javascript is an insanely productive language due to excellent mix of features. To improve upon that Id need to go to lisp / clojure [ but it lacks wide commercial acceptance .. not a criticism at all ] I'm actually wary of using the newer additions to javascript lan…

I don't want to argue on your other points but imo the part of auto-complete that saves typing time is the least important thing in a IDE. The really useful part of auto-completion is actually exploring unfamiliar APIs.

Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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When people point out that Google is behind Angular, they fail to mention that the level of investment is nowhere near that of Facebook in React. I've been loving using React. Building in components is fantastic, and it just feels like writing Javascript. That's a win in my books.

I'm pretty sure Google has invested millions more into Angular & the ecosystem than Facebook has into React - they even have a CSM on the Angular team. Even internally the investment seems to be proving vast, as Google even has a production Angular 2 app already (during the painful alpha) & multiple teams publicly pledging to use it, which will probably grow as it becomes appropriate for Google to migrate products to Angular 2. Google has a rarified number of software products compared to Facebook - it's irrational to assume all of them will jump to their framework immediately, especially considering it was in heavy R&D the past two years & only now entering beta.

Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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I am in Germany and this link forces a redirect to angularjs.blogspot.de because of my location (which is a version of the blog in German, which I don't read). No simple way around this, and no link I can see to go to .com instead. That's quite frustrating.

I am in Germany as well, and it redirects me to blogspot.de but the actual content is in english.
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