This may be off topic, but I was working with David Kelly's brother when he found out his brother died. After watching the news, I then realized how well known and important his brother was.
UK seals documents about suicide of weapons inspector David Kelly for 70 years
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Re: UK seals documents about suicide of weapons inspector David Kelly for 70 years
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I used to think the death of David Kelly was suicide. Now I am not sure. If there wasn't something highly dubious going on, why would the government keep it secret for 70 years?
If you read the article it isn't the suicide verdict that is sealed it is other evidence given tot he inquiry but not published. So perhaps the name of the CIA/Mi5/RAC agents that reported there were weapons, the names of current Iraqi politicians that were working for CIA/MI5/RAC. 70 years is nothing - there are still cabinet meetings from the Napoleonic wars that are sealed.
So they cherry picked some evidence to support a suicide verdict and sealed everything else. The article says that even the evidence they cherry picked was highly dubious.
They also sealed the autopsy reports which have nothing to do with intelligence agencies and are highly relevant to the suicide verdict.
I know every government conjures some James Bond secret agent fantasies whenever they want to hide something, but it doesn't fly here.
Re: UK seals documents about suicide of weapons inspector David Kelly for 70 years
#23This is why we need Wikileaks..
Unfortunately, somebody has to leak it first. People that have things to hide are really good at leak control.
The article says that they prevented an ordinary police inquest from taking place in order to have their "special" investigation. This means that the people that were doing the investigating were probably carefully selected. If there was a normal police inquest chances are there would be at least one honest cop or DA that would leak the stuff. But now it is doubtful.
Re: UK seals documents about suicide of weapons inspector David Kelly for 70 years
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
I used to think the death of David Kelly was suicide. Now I am not sure. If there wasn't something highly dubious going on, why would the government keep it secret for 70 years?
If you read the article it isn't the suicide verdict that is sealed it is other evidence given tot he inquiry but not published. So perhaps the name of the CIA/Mi5/RAC agents that reported there were weapons, the names of current Iraqi politicians that were working for CIA/MI5/RAC. 70 years is nothing - there are still cabinet meetings from the Napoleonic wars that are sealed.
There wasn't any doubt about the suicide verdict.
The issue was that the scope of the inquiry was limited to investigating a very specific claim - about what David Kelly said about the report.
It was not allowed to investigate the real question about the truth of the report and "who sexed it up"
In American terms it's like holding an investigation into JFK's death but only considering the cause of death and finding that it was a bullet that killed him.
Re: UK seals documents about suicide of weapons inspector David Kelly for 70 years
#25I've read allegations that David Kelly's rapid turn around from saying that there were WMDs present to arguing that there were none present was the result of blackmail over evidence of him being sexually involved with an aide. Googling on "David Kelly blackmail" gives thousands of hits. Here's one: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-490216/Sex-drugs-bla...
This reference has nothing to do with Kelly at all. Read it.
Re: UK seals documents about suicide of weapons inspector David Kelly for 70 years
#26Thanks to the moderator that decided to recycle this posting from the 'dead' pool.
This was dead? Do you know if it was auto-killed or flagged out?
It looked like it had to be flagged out because at the time it already had 10+ votes.
So an editor had to have killed it and another had to restore it. Weird. I can see why though, it is a purely political piece.
Either that or I'm seeing things :)
Re: UK seals documents about suicide of weapons inspector David Kelly for 70 years
#27This may be off topic, but I was working with David Kelly's brother when he found out his brother died. After watching the news, I then realized how well known and important his brother was.
Not only that, he also was one of the very few men involved in the run up to the Iraq war that actually had a conscience.
I've read a lot about him and he strikes me as a really good human being and we are poorer for having lost him.
Re: UK seals documents about suicide of weapons inspector David Kelly for 70 years
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I used to think the death of David Kelly was suicide. Now I am not sure. If there wasn't something highly dubious going on, why would the government keep it secret for 70 years?
If you read the article it isn't the suicide verdict that is sealed it is other evidence given tot he inquiry but not published. So perhaps the name of the CIA/Mi5/RAC agents that reported there were weapons, the names of current Iraqi politicians that were working for CIA/MI5/RAC. 70 years is nothing - there are still cabinet meetings from the Napoleonic wars that are sealed.
Surely the presence of names does not justify sealing the documents. Why not simply publish with the names deleted?
Re: UK seals documents about suicide of weapons inspector David Kelly for 70 years
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I used to think the death of David Kelly was suicide. Now I am not sure. If there wasn't something highly dubious going on, why would the government keep it secret for 70 years?
I lost a lot of confidence in governments in general when the French authorities decided to blow up the Greenpeace boat and ended up killing a civilian. Governments can and do operate clandestinely, the only real question is how much. David Kelly's death came at a very good time for the British Government, he had already proven to be willing to go public with potentially very damning information. My take on it was th…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior if anyone's interested
Re: UK seals documents about suicide of weapons inspector David Kelly for 70 years
#30I've read allegations that David Kelly's rapid turn around from saying that there were WMDs present to arguing that there were none present was the result of blackmail over evidence of him being sexually involved with an aide. Googling on "David Kelly blackmail" gives thousands of hits. Here's one: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-490216/Sex-drugs-bla...
You're kidding. Does this mean that people with something to hide can act to protect their secrets by traducing would-be whistleblowers?
This changes .. everything.