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Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by TranquilMarmot »

ansible wrote: post #248
Pxtl wrote: post #226

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Yup. Just put a USB port and a recessed frame in the fridge door and say "hey, it comes with a free Galaxy Tab 4 8" device! And a box of magnets and crazy glue! Same thing with "Smart TVs". Just put some extra powered USB ports on the back next to the HDMI port and bundle it with a TV stick.

I wish the car companies would take that attitude too. I keep my cars a long time, and I don't think it will be useful to be running a 10 year old version of Android on it. Just let me treat the car (or other appliance) like a peripheral, which would require minimal ongoing support, and let me upgrade the smarts as needed.

This is exactly why when I went to go buy a new car, I made sure it was "dumb" (no built-in GPS or control system or anything, just a stereo). Technology changes so fast, I don't want my car to be running on some processor and OS that will seem "ancient" in 10 years.

I have GPS and internet radio on my phone that I upgrade every few years, why would I want it in my car that I upgrade maybe every 10 years?

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by sedachv »

jonknee wrote: post #274
sedachv wrote: post #264

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They have these things called maps, sold at gas stations.

Which aren't much good for finding most POIs.

If you know the address or cross-streets it is very easy. You can also ask for directions. Believe it or not people managed to travel to and around unfamiliar cities just fine before the widespread use of GPS.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by paulddraper »

ArekDymalski wrote: post #172

"Very anxious to get this fixed as this is how my young daughter knows her daily schedule." This comment terrifies me. It sounds like that I kind of future I've read about in dystopian literature.

When the machines take over, they'll go for our fridges first, so we won't know what to do.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by ethanbond »

cguess wrote: post #167
ethanbond wrote: post #122

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A mistake I'll make only once: driving to Montreal only to realize my phone was useless once I got to the city limits and needed to figure out how to get to my hotel.

If you start the navigation ahead of time it'll keep going even if you're offline. It caches the route and gps waypoints. Worked great on my trip from NYC to Quebec City.

Ah, that's good to know. I didn't do that since I know how to get to Montreal itself easily. From my front door: left, left, right, straight * 3 hours.

A one time mistake, for sure, though!

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by ethanbond »

sedachv wrote: post #292
jonknee wrote: post #274

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Which aren't much good for finding most POIs.

If you know the address or cross-streets it is very easy. You can also ask for directions. Believe it or not people managed to travel to and around unfamiliar cities just fine before the widespread use of GPS.

Believe it or not "I got lost when I realized my GPS was useless" does not imply "I starved to death in the cold Canadian woods after wandering aimlessly for 4 days."

I found the hotel just fine! It was just a bit of a "should've seen that coming" type of moment, is all.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by jdcarter »

rsync wrote: post #205
jdmichal wrote: post #162

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To be fair, smart TVs still work as TVs, even if the entire "smart" portion is broken. I'm entertaining buying a new TV soon, since mine is on the out after almost 10 years. I'd prefer to buy a non-smart TV, but honestly all the top models include it now, so it's pretty much unavoidable.

"To be fair, smart TVs still work as TVs, even if the entire "smart" portion is broken. I'm entertaining buying a new TV soon, since mine is on the out after almost 10 years. I'd prefer to buy a non-smart TV, but honestly all the top models include it now, so it's pretty much unavoidable." You can opt out of using the smart features, but the presence of wifi and bluetooth stacks and cameras and microphones means that…

> ...the presence of wifi and bluetooth stacks and cameras and microphones means that you are living with a long list of vulnerabilities...

No, you just turn those off. I bought a TV recently and didn't have any option (for this particular model line) of getting a "non-smart" version. I simply turned off the TV's networking. The only cables attached to the TV are power and HDMI, so it's effectively a dumb TV with zero attack surface.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by jdcarter »

simoncion wrote: post #231
toast0 wrote: post #95

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> Any choice of touchscreen, OS or even network connection technology would probably be a "bad idea" in 5-10 years. Ethernet via RJ45 has really good staying power; IEEE standard in 1990. A refrigerator at 10Mbps is probably sufficient, but if not, 10GBase-T is approaching affordability, and a standard for 40GBase-T is expected next year, although you may need to pull new wires.

802.11a/b (1999) are looking pretty good, too. Everything I've ever seen with a 2GHz radio supports b, [0] and with a 5GHz radio supports a. [0] Even though some AP admins deactivate 802.11b support for entirely valid throughput raisins. AIUI, 802.11a doesn't suffer from those issues.

Problem with 802.11 isn't the radio layer, it's the security. Early 802.11 didn't do security right at all, then we had WEP and that got broken, then WPA, then WPA2...

Example: I created wifi drivers for a handheld platform back in the 90's (Magic Cap), including support for the earliest 802.11 PC cards. Fans of the platform (both of them) encouraged me to update the drivers so they could continue using their handhelds over wireless, but it's simply not possible to get a 1999 wifi card on a modern wifi network in any half-secure fashion.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by sithadmin »

stenius wrote: post #107
sithadmin wrote: post #101

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Though I generally use Waze for plotting a course to an unfamiliar destination, I still heavily use my car's GPS nav system. Rather than relying on it for guidance, I use it as a reference for routing around small inconveniences (road work/construction, accidents, etc.) on familiar routes. I've found it quite useful in this regard, and the large screen size definitely comes in handy for at-a-glance usage.

What kind of navunit do you have? I wouldn't count on mine for anything helpful and it requires a sat radio subscription to get traffic updates.

Ford Sync. Whatever generation they were selling in 2013.

I don't really rely on it for traffic information or anything, just maps. If I'm driving on local 'main' roads and visually pick up on indicators that there's something inconvenient ahead, I'll use the nav unit to identify appropriate sidestreets to take instead.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by simoncion »

jdcarter wrote: post #297
simoncion wrote: post #231

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802.11a/b (1999) are looking pretty good, too. Everything I've ever seen with a 2GHz radio supports b, [0] and with a 5GHz radio supports a. [0] Even though some AP admins deactivate 802.11b support for entirely valid throughput raisins. AIUI, 802.11a doesn't suffer from those issues.

Problem with 802.11 isn't the radio layer, it's the security. Early 802.11 didn't do security right at all, then we had WEP and that got broken, then WPA, then WPA2... Example: I created wifi drivers for a handheld platform back in the 90's (Magic Cap), including support for the earliest 802.11 PC cards. Fans of the platform (both of them) encouraged me to update the drivers so they could continue using their handhel…

> Problem with 802.11 isn't the radio layer, it's the security.

True. It's a damn shame about WEP, and WPA2 didn't happen until 2004. But, 2004 is eleven years ago. Disgregarding the shitfest that is WPS-PIN, WPA2 with CCMP is looking rather good.

Are you aware of breaks in WPA2 with CCMP-only crypto and either a well-chosen passphrase, or WPA2-Enterprise with a proper client authorization scheme?

> ...it's simply not possible to get a 1999 wifi card on a modern wifi network in any half-secure fashion.

Not saying that there are any WiFi cards that behave in this manner, [0] but would a hypothetical WiFi card that only knows how to how to establish and pass around -er- frames(?) on a 802.11a/g link and relies on the client PC to use the frames passed back and forth to do link crypto & etc be

* Possible

* Reasonably sufficiently fast, given enough CPU power on the client

* Able to cope with any likely enhancements (such as the addition of WPA2 back in 2004) with a driver update, rather than a firmware update

?

[0] Even though I thought that pre 802.11ac Atheros cards had open firmware and open drivers, so one got pretty close to this.

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