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Why Zuckerberg’s Critics Are Wrong

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Re: Why Zuckerberg’s Critics Are Wrong

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"the most productive individual in society"

I think this is the crux of the issue. Is Zuckerberg amongst the most productive individuals in the society? As another example, was Steve Jobs so much more productive than his competitors. Can Warren Buffet be considered productive at all, for that matter (we wouldn't have a shortage of insurance companies, sugar water selling companies, furniture and apparel companies if the specific ones Buffet invested and makes his money in never existed)? Note, I'm only mentioning individuals I am a fan of here. There are many worse examples than these.

Just taking Zuckerberg for example, while he obviously did something extremely useful, his greatest "productivity" (as defined by his earnings) was that he happened to be the one whose social network, amongst the many hundreds of combinations being tried at the time, happened to have the right combination of factors that made it extremely popular. Is that reason enough to award him so much more control over the future of society as opposed to the guy who invented Orkut, for example?

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The harsh criticism feels unwarranted to me as well.

It honestly feels to me like a little bit of misplaced self insecurity.

I kind of get it, but considering that there is no evidence of ill will, I get the sense that people are reacting to something other than what's actually happening here (like their dislike for Zuckerberg's fortunes, how he got it, Facebook privacy issues, etc.)

To put this into context, if a young mother dedicates 99% of her life (but not billions because she doesn't have it) into charity and she does so in the name of her children and their future, I doubt she would be receiving the sort of harsh criticism that Zuckerberg is receiving for the same thing.

It reminds of people's hatred for SUV's (seems to have died down more recently). It was always under the guise of the environment, but really other types of environmental waste were not really villified to the same extent. For example, it's far worse to own a non-SUV and decide to live out in the suburbs and drive to work than to live nearby work and have an SUV.

I'm not a Zuckerberg fan-club member, but what he did would be something I wish I could do someday and it doesn't seem weird at all to me to do this in dedication of my child. I also feel, from a pragmatic point of view, that we need to be encouraging people to donate.

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that "philanthrocapitalism" is a term used to obfuscate the issue of billionaires setting up tax havens in the guise of philanthropy. The term implies that philanthropy can be or is a mode of capitalism, whereas in reality it's the opposite because philanthropy deals with altruistic allocation of resources rather than profit-seeking allocation of resources. Let's not use this term, because it's deceptive and doesn't make sense internally.

Instead, let's do some white hat thinking (purely facts, as little spin as possible) about Zuck's new venture. Fact: Zuck has laid down a large chunk of change for a new project, and marketed this project to the public as large scale philanthropy. Fact: Zuck will get a large amount of leeway on taxes and oversight by moving his money in this way. Fact: some billionaires before Zuck have made similar moves that actually turned into fantastic philanthropic organizations that have made tangible positive impact in the world (Gates Foundation)-- but others have used the construct as purely a means to protect their money and get good PR.

These are some of the facts. I do not believe that there is any way to get around or reinterpret any of them without adding opinion, which probably snuck in anyway despite my efforts. At this point, I think that the reactions of those who question Zuck's motives are justified because we haven't had the time to see the program in action disbursing money as it claims that it will. A promise, a wad of cash, and a lot of PR do not make an effective philanthropic organization. Effective philanthropy requires that real, living people and real institutions are altered in an objectively positive way. The proper stance is skepticism and a request for more evidence of good will.

EDIT: I will add that the rabid detractors of Zuck have counterparts with the rabid pro-Zuck crowd... I doubt Zuck is looking out for anyone other than himself, but there is more to life than celebrity-watching, and it seems petty no matter how you slice it.

Re: Why Zuckerberg’s Critics Are Wrong

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Here's an idea:

Don't allow tax deductions on "charitable" contributions.

If, for instance, somebody wants to give $100MM to Central Park, let them do it because they like Central Park that much, rather than because they like it $70MM worth, and the tax payers can cover the other $30MM.

Philanthropy is about giving, period. Not giving when it has financial benefits that make it easier at the expense of others.

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The reason that Zuckerberg is singled out is simply because of the scale ($45 billion). The same reason that McDonalds is criticized for unhealthy food instead of Burger King/Wendy's/Carls Jr., or Apple criticized for labor conditions instead of HTC/LG/Samsung.

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>Governments do better at providing public goods (defense, say, or education)

Not really. At least not necessarily. Health and education as provided by the government in Brazil is just horrendous. People die in line and student's grades are far, far below private schools. Public security is non-existence, whereas organized communities both poor and rich enjoy relative security with private guards in the streets and electric fences or barber wire on their houses fences. Generals have said Brazil has ammunition for just 1h of war[1]. There was recently a rise in the private education sector, with competition leading to affordable prices for the poor. However, with the current recession I think the sector has slowed to a halt, like all others.

[1] http://exame.abril.com.br/brasil/noticias/exercito-brasileir...

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"the most productive individual in society" I think this is the crux of the issue. Is Zuckerberg amongst the most productive individuals in the society? As another example, was Steve Jobs so much more productive than his competitors. Can Warren Buffet be considered productive at all, for that matter (we wouldn't have a shortage of insurance companies, sugar water selling companies, furniture and apparel companies if…

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Re: Why Zuckerberg’s Critics Are Wrong

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Here's an idea: Don't allow tax deductions on "charitable" contributions. If, for instance, somebody wants to give $100MM to Central Park, let them do it because they like Central Park that much, rather than because they like it $70MM worth, and the tax payers can cover the other $30MM. Philanthropy is about giving, period. Not giving when it has financial benefits that make it easier at the expense of others.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to deduct charitable contributions - up to say, 10K per year. There exist people who sit on huge amounts of unrealized capital gains. If they donate 100M in stock, then they can sell 100M in stock without ever paying any taxes whatsoever.

Re: Why Zuckerberg’s Critics Are Wrong

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The harsh criticism feels unwarranted to me as well. It honestly feels to me like a little bit of misplaced self insecurity. I kind of get it, but considering that there is no evidence of ill will, I get the sense that people are reacting to something other than what's actually happening here (like their dislike for Zuckerberg's fortunes, how he got it, Facebook privacy issues, etc.) To put this into context, if a yo…

>if a young mother dedicates 99% of her life (but not billions because she doesn't have it) into charity

That is the point. He is not dedicating 99% of his life, he is moving money around. If an average person gives 5% of his income to charity he is losing power and losing opportunities. He is sacrificing his well being and that of his immediate family for charity. If someone with as much money as Zuckerberg or Gates does it he is increasing his power and his opportunities. They still get influence, they earn karma points, they get a legacy, they still decide.

The average guy giving is a hero, Zuckerberg is not.

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