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New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

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Re: New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

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Post by smackfu »

revelation wrote: post #92
smackfu wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's what the industry task force that came up with the suggested registration requirements said in their report: The Task Force spent considerable time discussing and deliberating about what the appropriate weight threshold should be. While general agreement was ultimately reached on the 250 gram weight, there were Task Force members who believed it was too conservative, as the weight could negatively impact the c…

Nobody cares what color of a bunch of bureaucrats want to paint the bike shed, this needs to be an evidence-guided process not a wank.

If you look at the PDF, there is a surprising amount of calculations on how dangerous a 250 g drone could be.

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Post by bdamm »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #137
Glyptodon wrote: post #58

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Because your aircraft is going to routinely buzz residential areas at sub-500-feet and is entitled to do so risk free because it costs a lot of money or something? It's not like drones are risk free - quad copters are like hockey pucks floating in the air and can easily drift or fall. But that said, considering how many of them are in private hands and what most owners actually do with them, the registration requirem…

I'm not clear on how these are more dangerous to aircraft than large birds are. The latter probably outnumber drones by a million to one.

Any pilot will tell you that birds do most of the work when it comes to collision avoidance.

Drones, not so much.

Re: New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

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Post by CamperBob2 »

bdamm wrote: post #152
CamperBob2 wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not clear on how these are more dangerous to aircraft than large birds are. The latter probably outnumber drones by a million to one.

Any pilot will tell you that birds do most of the work when it comes to collision avoidance. Drones, not so much.

Nevertheless, it's not hard to find reports of bird strikes. What are some good case studies of drone strikes that I can review?

Re: New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

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Post by rfrank »

ctdonath wrote: post #71
eykanal wrote: post #67

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If I'm following your argument, you're saying, "drones are currently not that powerful, so they should be viewed as a toy." The problem is, that argument is destined to become false. Drones are only getting more and more capable. Intelligent legislation works not only for the current scenario but also future ones. Additionally, there are many stories regarding how current drone operators either ignore common sense re…

No results found for "airline drone near miss" Ok, that's a bit pedantic - search for "airliner drone near miss". But what are we talking about re: "near miss" here? The phrase itself defines as no actual impact. How many actual problems are we talking about here, vs "close but no harm done"? I'm just trying to bracket the issue.

1. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/12/06/near-collision-w...

2. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-medical-helicopt...

Re: New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

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Post by rconti »

Buttons840 wrote: post #145
yc1010 wrote: post #7

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So now people have to register toys they own.... The anger you are feeling is the screws being tightened a little tighter. Everything nowadays is regulated, controlled and monitored, we in the west are not free, especially in "the land of the free" And some beuracrat(s) at FAA just guaranteed themselves job security for long time

I got some family members some $25 dollar quadcopters for Christmas. Nobody in my family is especially interested in RC's of any kind, but for $25 bucks I thought it would be a fun and unexpected gift, and it was a quick impulse buy by me from Amazon. My Christmas morning just went from "here's a fun little gift, lets try it out" to "first we have to figure out the government bureaucracy and register this thing or fa…

Get them some lawn darts instead

Re: New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

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Post by bdamm »

peter303 wrote: post #24
Someone1234 wrote: post #5

What surprises me is is the minimum weight requirement: 250 grams. That's well below a weight that could reasonably be considered a danger to aircraft or people. Just for comparison purposes, a McDonald's Big Mac weighs 215-240 grams without wrapper, so with a wrapper if you turned a Big Mac into a drone, it would likely require registration. The real question is, what is their endgame here? Just send out notificatio…

Force is porportional is the square of velocity. The standard must anticipate FAST drones, not just their weight.

Or fast airplanes. Most FAA speed limits where drones are going to be top out at about 200knots, so that's pretty quick.

Re: New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

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Post by omni »

bjt2n3904 wrote: post #146
omni wrote: post #16

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I think the idea is that you can achieve compliance through fear of punitive action without ever actually having to punish anyone (in an ideal world). Before law: "I'll just fly my drone around this airport, it's not like I'll get caught or anything." After law: "Crap, now if anything happens this is gonna get traced right back to me and my life is gonna be ruined, maybe I shouldn't fly around this airport like a mor…

After law: "Crap, now if anything happens this is gonna get traced right back to me and my life is gonna be ruined, maybe I shouldn't like a moron." People willing to break one aspect of the law are generally willing to break other parts as well.

Sure, but this means you now can't fly in a park or any public space without the risk of a police officer coming by and asking to see your registration. I'm assuming police would be empowered to do that?

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Post by bdamm »

jnbiche wrote: post #89
afarrell wrote: post #42

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I'm pretty sure that regularly throwing half-pound rocks high in the air is already regulated.

Perhaps in some urban areas, but I seriously doubt there are federal regulations about throwing rock projectiles into the air with no intent to hit or harm a person.

FAA says that pilots may drop objects from airplanes, but puts the onus on the pilot to ensure "no hazard is created". And, once the object touches the ground, it becomes subject to local laws. So dropping a rock onto someone's property could be quite a few violations depending on the outcome and the property.

Re: New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

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Post by bdamm »

bjt2n3904 wrote: post #147
1024core wrote: post #93

Is there any verification of the registration? Here's a hypothetical situation: a guy with a drone has a pesky neighbor he doesn't get along with. So he "registers" his drone in the neighbor's name; takes it to a nearby airport and lets it fly around over there and crash. Now the neighbor's in trouble, and has to defend himself from these hefty fines.

I'd go one step further. What's preventing someone from flying a drone without registration?

Same thing that prevents someone from driving without a license. If you get caught, there are fines. That doesn't mean you'll get caught, but it's enough to dissuade most folks.
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