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Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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I remember seeing a commercial for those things where they drafted the Top Chef brothers, and even in the commercial it looked extremely awkward to use. "Oh, let's just look up something...(walk over...bend down...glance at screen...slowly punch things in...)." Even if it were the best thing ever, I know technology and I know that fridges last years longer than any gadget ever has. Any choice of touchscreen, OS or ev…

> fridges last years longer than any gadget

You are clearly holding^W using it wrong. You are supposed to buy new fridges way more often, duh...

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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post #72

I was impressed and a little amazed by how deadpan and serious the messages in the discussion are… nobody stops to reflect on the sheer insanity that we’re all giggling at over here. I assume, anyway, eventually my attention wandered and I skipped to the end, where a charming young lad does indeed go unhinged over “samsucks” and heroin-addicted mothers.

I'm more amazed by how everyone on HN is so shocked by a computer on a fridge. We live in an age where powerful computers with touchscreens can be had for tens of dollars... what's so shocking about an underpowered computer on a fridge? What's so shocking about wanting it to function as advertised?

Nobody is shocked, quite the opposite. People that work in software have at some point felt that proprietary software almost always makes their life hard (but makes more money). Because of that there are low expectations for the internet of things, because you can bet all the things will be running proprietary software.

This is confirmation of that, and people love confirmation.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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"Very anxious to get this fixed as this is how my young daughter knows her daily schedule." This comment terrifies me. It sounds like that I kind of future I've read about in dystopian literature.

There could be a very good reason for this: children on the autistic spectrum often rely on (A) their next few steps being clearly and explicitly defined, and (B) things not changing. (However, this is a good reason to use a low technology solution that won't break, eg, paper.)

Thank you for this comment.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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post #69

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"Your ice maker comes free with licenses for up to 1,000 cubes a year! For only $8.99 a month, you can enjoy up to 5,000 cubes. Add crushed ice for an additional $2.95. Cancel anytime."

Don't give them any ideas.

I think that somewhere deep in some R&D department someone has already been paid for this exact idea and few others of this kind.

Maybe even Intellectual Ventures has a patent on it.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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post #195

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Nah. Pop open the cover and install an aftermarket control board that runs Free software. Eventually, this will be more user-friendly (better interface one doesn't have to relearn every monthly update), convenient (better software features), and economical (how many appliances are thrown out due to software malfunctions).

Since this has to be reverse-engineered for each model, it's not going to be very prevalent. Are there any examples of this already?

Pinball machines, but I'd hardly call one-size-fits-all pinball central controllers a harbinger of a brave new world of DIY control board installs. There's significant economic incentive to tinkering with a pinball machine until it works.

Ironically, the all-in-one controllers also tend to be missing some of the more popular pinball machine models, as the IP owners for those machines had the legal muscle to boss around the companies that make the all-in-one boards. As a result, some of the more popular pinball machines are dying as their control boards wear out and they cannot be replaced, because even the popular manufacturers either rotated what they make or went out of business / got bought. :-p

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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post #108

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This is why I go out of my way to be appliances that have no "smart" capability whatsoever. They're useless and I'll probably never use it. I got my 55" TV for hundreds of dollars cheaper than the comparable "smart" varieties, simply because it only did the one thing it was any good at anyway: displaying video output.

The problem is, you'll likely get "smart" features thrown in "for free" (read priced into model) if you want a decent screen in the future.

In the future, yeah, that seems it will become unavoidable. Luckily for now I was totally able to avoid it, even though I did have to actively seek a new, dumb TV.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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post #49

It's cheaper, and probably a better UX, to duct tape a tablet to the fridge door.

It's much cheaper, and definitely a better UX, to buy a whiteboard and hang it on or beside the fridge. (BTDT. Why waste $50-250 on a tablet? If I really want to tote the whiteboard with me when I go to the shops I just snap a photo of it to view on my phone, then delete the shopping list when I get home.)

I disagree:

I built a "grocery list" app that I can access from my phone. If I'm buying groceries, and I update the list, someone else can view the up-to-date list and won't buy a second carton of milk.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah. Pop open the cover and install an aftermarket control board that runs Free software. Eventually, this will be more user-friendly (better interface one doesn't have to relearn every monthly update), convenient (better software features), and economical (how many appliances are thrown out due to software malfunctions).

You're being sarcastic, right? > Pop open the cover and install an aftermarket control board that runs Free software. Appliances will get redesigned so that it's hard to do it. If they really want to drive the message home, then like 'maxerickson said, it's epoxy time. > Eventually, this will be more user-friendly (better interface one doesn't have to relearn every monthly update) See mobile. > convenient (better sof…

Actually, I'm not being sarcastic at all.

I haven't opened too many post-infopocalypse appliances but the ones I've seen have been dead simple, apart from their over-"engineered" control boards. These things used to run off mechanical timers, and that is still the underlying philosophy, with new "smart" features mostly UI-based.

It seems to me that one could design a general sequencing board to run many models. Some types would be harder than others (washing machines with brushless motors), and moreso if manufacturers start to add digitally-communicating sensors, but these don't seem insurmountable to handle pretty generally. So a total end-user installed cost of say $400? That seems within the price differential between "low end" and "high end" models that differ in software.

It just takes will since it requires not just picking from what the advertising says, like anything Free. But IMHO this is a social momentum issue and the disadvantages of proprietary trash-land will only be more and more pronounced as there are ever-more features for manufacturers to fuck up.

And as far as epoxy? Manufacturers don't really care if you mod things they've made, they just don't want to be on the hook for supporting this. The protectiveness is rooted in thinking their shoddy software is some kind of "competitive advantage". Completely replacing the control board sidesteps this.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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post #27

Ubik, 1969 > “From the drawer beside the sink Joe Chip got a stainless steel knife; with it he began systematically to unscrew the bolt assembly of his apt's money-gulping door. > "I'll sue you," the door said as the first screw fell out. Joe Chip said, "I've never been sued by a door. But I guess I can live through it.”

One of (Ubik author) Phil Dick's great insights was that our relationship with machines would be intrusive and passive aggressive. Flying advert drones projecting adverts onto pedestrian's retinas; home appliances like fridges that refuse to open until sufficient coinage is inserted - a prescient vision.

I love PKD, I can't get enough, but I feel like you only get to qualify a prediction as prescient once it comes to pass.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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