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New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

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Re: New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

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What surprises me is is the minimum weight requirement: 250 grams. That's well below a weight that could reasonably be considered a danger to aircraft or people. Just for comparison purposes, a McDonald's Big Mac weighs 215-240 grams without wrapper, so with a wrapper if you turned a Big Mac into a drone, it would likely require registration. The real question is, what is their endgame here? Just send out notificatio…

A burger wrapper caught on a real helicopter's rotor can induce scary vibrations & some loss of lift. Keep the burger & wrapper please.

Re: New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

#13

Somehow this really angers me.

I know why it angers me - it's effectively executive action, taken long after the deadline given to the FAA by Congress. Furthermore, the FAA appears to have completely ignored industry and hobbyist input with this absurdly low registration weight.

Re: New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

#14

What surprises me is is the minimum weight requirement: 250 grams. That's well below a weight that could reasonably be considered a danger to aircraft or people. Just for comparison purposes, a McDonald's Big Mac weighs 215-240 grams without wrapper, so with a wrapper if you turned a Big Mac into a drone, it would likely require registration. The real question is, what is their endgame here? Just send out notificatio…

250g is large enough to do damage

Re: New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

#15
post #7

Somehow this really angers me.

So now people have to register toys they own.... The anger you are feeling is the screws being tightened a little tighter. Everything nowadays is regulated, controlled and monitored, we in the west are not free, especially in "the land of the free" And some beuracrat(s) at FAA just guaranteed themselves job security for long time

Except that they aren't toys. They are flying blades and we've already seen situations in which they have interfered with lives/property being saved.

And if you are so angry at regulation then go and live in China. I would highly recommend Beijing this time of year.

Just remember to breath in deep and taste the freedom.

Re: New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

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> Failure to register can result in a hefty penalty, including civil fines of up to $27,500 and criminal penalties of up to $250,000 and three years in prison. > "The goal is not to be punitive but to get people into compliance," FAA Deputy Administrator Michael Whitaker said. These two sentences don't seem to mesh for me. Even if they don't plan to actually prosecute any violators (yet), just the threat of that is r…

I think the idea is that you can achieve compliance through fear of punitive action without ever actually having to punish anyone (in an ideal world).

Before law: "I'll just fly my drone around this airport, it's not like I'll get caught or anything."

After law: "Crap, now if anything happens this is gonna get traced right back to me and my life is gonna be ruined, maybe I shouldn't fly around this airport like a moron."

Re: New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

#17

What surprises me is is the minimum weight requirement: 250 grams. That's well below a weight that could reasonably be considered a danger to aircraft or people. Just for comparison purposes, a McDonald's Big Mac weighs 215-240 grams without wrapper, so with a wrapper if you turned a Big Mac into a drone, it would likely require registration. The real question is, what is their endgame here? Just send out notificatio…

Suppose a 250g drone fails mid-air, hypothetically at a height of 100m, and falls freely. At terminal velocity, it's a lethal projectile.

Have no illusions about the damage that can be done by small things falling from a great height, or travelling at a high speed in general. The 250g weight is entirely reasonable -- I would actually claim that it is quite generous.

Re: New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

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What surprises me is is the minimum weight requirement: 250 grams. That's well below a weight that could reasonably be considered a danger to aircraft or people. Just for comparison purposes, a McDonald's Big Mac weighs 215-240 grams without wrapper, so with a wrapper if you turned a Big Mac into a drone, it would likely require registration. The real question is, what is their endgame here? Just send out notificatio…

Here's what the industry task force that came up with the suggested registration requirements said in their report:

The Task Force spent considerable time discussing and deliberating about what the appropriate weight threshold should be. While general agreement was ultimately reached on the 250 gram weight, there were Task Force members who believed it was too conservative, as the weight could negatively impact the credibility of the sUAS registration program and thus lessen compliance levels because it would require registration of somes UAS generally considered to be in the “toy” category. Others took the opposite view that there should be no registration exemption for UAS of any size.

https://www.faa.gov/uas/publications/media/RTFARCFinalReport...

Re: New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

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What surprises me is is the minimum weight requirement: 250 grams. That's well below a weight that could reasonably be considered a danger to aircraft or people. Just for comparison purposes, a McDonald's Big Mac weighs 215-240 grams without wrapper, so with a wrapper if you turned a Big Mac into a drone, it would likely require registration. The real question is, what is their endgame here? Just send out notificatio…

I was under the impression that pretty much anything getting sucked into a jet turbine is a major problem, can anyone speak to whether that's true? Birds don't weigh a lot either, but run into one and you could have a major problem on your hands.

No, that's not true at all. Jet engines can typically handle many birds. The AA flight that landed in the Hudson was unique in that it went through a large flock of Canadian geese, which are very large birds.

I sat next to a naval pilot on a plane once and he wasn't scared of drones at all. The jet engine would tear it right up.

Re: New U.S. FAA rule requires drone owners to register by Feb 19

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What surprises me is is the minimum weight requirement: 250 grams. That's well below a weight that could reasonably be considered a danger to aircraft or people. Just for comparison purposes, a McDonald's Big Mac weighs 215-240 grams without wrapper, so with a wrapper if you turned a Big Mac into a drone, it would likely require registration. The real question is, what is their endgame here? Just send out notificatio…

I imagine there will be a new interest in the sub-250 gram FPV community.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sZ-N8YiTs4

And a new interest in dye cut stickers...

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