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UK citizens may soon need licenses to photograph some stuff they already own

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Re: UK citizens may soon need licenses to photograph some stuff they already own

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Post by guard-of-terra »

karmapolice wrote: post #10
vezzy-fnord wrote: post #8

A lot of technologists here have certain dreams or aspirations they want to see materialized in their lifetimes. AGI, transhumanism, space colonization, etc. My dream is that I hope to see the emergence of a viable minarchist or anarchist society (beyond Mennonite and kibbutzim arrangements). Thus far the closest was a brief period of Catalonian history amidst a civil war.

Communists and anarchists talking about the new utopian society before winning the war. I wonder why they lose...

In Russia, communists won the Civil War precisely because they were talking about the new utopia.

Because, the other side said: "we will win the war and then decide what to build". That's why I even struggle name them, other than "white" (as opposed to communist "red").

Re: UK citizens may soon need licenses to photograph some stuff they already own

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Post by pakled_engineer »

vezzy-fnord wrote: post #8

A lot of technologists here have certain dreams or aspirations they want to see materialized in their lifetimes. AGI, transhumanism, space colonization, etc. My dream is that I hope to see the emergence of a viable minarchist or anarchist society (beyond Mennonite and kibbutzim arrangements). Thus far the closest was a brief period of Catalonian history amidst a civil war.

Rojava is experimenting with decentralized power http://thelionsofrojava.com/index.php/what-you-can-do-here/

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/29/magazine/a-dream-of-uto...

Re: UK citizens may soon need licenses to photograph some stuff they already own

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Post by vezzy-fnord »

guard-of-terra wrote: post #11
karmapolice wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Communists and anarchists talking about the new utopian society before winning the war. I wonder why they lose...

In Russia, communists won the Civil War precisely because they were talking about the new utopia. Because, the other side said: "we will win the war and then decide what to build". That's why I even struggle name them, other than "white" (as opposed to communist "red").

The Whites were pretty clear in their goals, I'd thought: preservation of monarchy and status quo.

A more interesting counterfactual would have been Menshevik victory.

Re: UK citizens may soon need licenses to photograph some stuff they already own

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Post by mindcrime »

vezzy-fnord wrote: post #8

A lot of technologists here have certain dreams or aspirations they want to see materialized in their lifetimes. AGI, transhumanism, space colonization, etc. My dream is that I hope to see the emergence of a viable minarchist or anarchist society (beyond Mennonite and kibbutzim arrangements). Thus far the closest was a brief period of Catalonian history amidst a civil war.

My dream is that I hope to see the emergence of a viable minarchist or anarchist society

Same here, but I'm not very optimistic right this minute.

Re: UK citizens may soon need licenses to photograph some stuff they already own

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Post by Aloisius »

Won't this severely affect movies and television? I imagine a huge number of movies and television shows have at least some piece from a classic designer and I can't imagine Hollywood is going to track down who owns the licensing rights for every set piece, building, article of clothing, etc. ahead of time just to show it in the UK.

Re: UK citizens may soon need licenses to photograph some stuff they already own

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Post by guard-of-terra »

vezzy-fnord wrote: post #13
guard-of-terra wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Russia, communists won the Civil War precisely because they were talking about the new utopia. Because, the other side said: "we will win the war and then decide what to build". That's why I even struggle name them, other than "white" (as opposed to communist "red").

The Whites were pretty clear in their goals, I'd thought: preservation of monarchy and status quo. A more interesting counterfactual would have been Menshevik victory.

Except most of them were actually republican, supporting Provisional Government.

It was a wide coalition of monarchists, republicans, orthdox priests and military. Their only common ground was perhaps dislike and fear of reds (and that turned out very justified).

Re: UK citizens may soon need licenses to photograph some stuff they already own

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Post by RobertoG »

What I miss in this kind of articles is more details in how this kind of laws are cooked.

They say "the UK government", OK, but who in the UK government, and who is really behind. Not that we don't know, but making the process explicit would be helpful.

Re: UK citizens may soon need licenses to photograph some stuff they already own

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

karmapolice wrote: post #10
vezzy-fnord wrote: post #8

A lot of technologists here have certain dreams or aspirations they want to see materialized in their lifetimes. AGI, transhumanism, space colonization, etc. My dream is that I hope to see the emergence of a viable minarchist or anarchist society (beyond Mennonite and kibbutzim arrangements). Thus far the closest was a brief period of Catalonian history amidst a civil war.

Communists and anarchists talking about the new utopian society before winning the war. I wonder why they lose...

I'm confused. What order would you suggest instead?

Re: UK citizens may soon need licenses to photograph some stuff they already own

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Post by netcan »

vezzy-fnord wrote: post #8

A lot of technologists here have certain dreams or aspirations they want to see materialized in their lifetimes. AGI, transhumanism, space colonization, etc. My dream is that I hope to see the emergence of a viable minarchist or anarchist society (beyond Mennonite and kibbutzim arrangements). Thus far the closest was a brief period of Catalonian history amidst a civil war.

I know kibbutzim pretty well. For all the successes, failures and learnings the main reason I think this relatively small movement is notable is that people just went and did it.

If you really think you have a model, go and see if you can implement it. If your model requires revolution, wide agreement with everyone or some such, it's probably not relevant as a model.

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