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Re: What Your Microbiome Wants for Dinner

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Post by SergeyHack » Sat, Dec 12, 2015, 11:10 PM UTC

kefka wrote: post #6

That's an interesting article, for sure. It also applies to what I've been diagnosed with as well. Type 2 diabetes. I'm applying data science to this disease. It's what I do, and can afford. Unfortunately, my doctor thinks that pushing pills is an adequate response, which I heartily doubt. The more I understand this disease, it has to do with either: pancreas is dead (type 1), or your glucose response/insulin respons…

I've heard a number of times that proper water fasting can heal diabetes.

P.S. Absolute fasting can be dangerous.

Re: What Your Microbiome Wants for Dinner

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Post by classicsnoot » Sat, Dec 12, 2015, 11:20 PM UTC

OldSchoolJohnny wrote: post #47

classicsnoot wrote: post #23

Rolled out this idea in a thread long ago about Apple not including a Period Tracker in their health app and it was taboo then, but here is as best a place to try again... There should be a poop tracking app. It would help a user track their waste over time, identify important red flags, act as an incredibly detailed source of diagnostic data for health care professionals, and promote healthy and happy living. Two to…

Um..."very solid today", "kind of soft today"...what exactly would you track, without more tools to analyze it?

Color, texture, odor, amount, frequency, duration, experience, to start off. Chromotagraphy and good ol' regular image capture might be super useful, too. Pairing the app with a food intake tracker would be ideal. There could be different options of detail in terms of data collection. Known illnesses could be factored in. Worrisome trends could be identified. Uncomfortable conversations could be avoided, thereby helping medical professionals more easily asses the root causes of problems. Anonymous communities could be established based on chronic ailments and religiously health minded folks alike. There are a diarrhea of options for this idea (I couldn't fuckingbhelp myself... so many poop puns wanted to come out...)

Re: What Your Microbiome Wants for Dinner

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Post by radicalbyte » Sun, Dec 13, 2015, 7:49 AM UTC

kefka wrote: post #42

radicalbyte wrote: post #37

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Are you overweight? I am, and recently tested a1c @ 6.1. That's not Type-2, but it's dangerzone. I'm dieting now, I'm going to re-test each time I drop 5kg to see if it helps. see: http://www.gizmag.com/one-gram-pancreas-fat-reverse-type-2-d...

I am. The weights are also in the data. Initially at the doctor's, I was 320. And that was 2 weeks ago. Now I'm at 314. And also, watch out about the a1c. They are not reliable readings to use in diagnosis. Studies from last year show a very skewed weighted average from the last 3 months that generate the a1c. Also, if you have any sort of hemoglobin-modifying illness (sickle cell, others), a1c is completely inaccura…

Interesting, I always assume some variance.

Following the advice of my wife (a pharmacist!), I've been on a restricted calorie diet (1300kcal) for 10 days and it seems to have worked. My resting a1c is 4.3.

I can recommend trying it - although it's not easy. The first 5 days are horrible. I only managed it because I had a stomach virus (so wasn't eating).

Pills are expensive and it's crazy to be stuck on them if you can control your glucose with diet.

Re: What Your Microbiome Wants for Dinner

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Post by scholia » Sun, Dec 13, 2015, 1:17 PM UTC

Joof wrote: post #88

scholia wrote: post #80

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Sure. But brilliant people generally don't believe dumb things that in their core area of expertise....

Sure, but a PhD's area of expertise is increasingly narrow.

The authors are well beyond PhD level. They are supervising PhD students and post-doctoral fellows.

http://sonnenburglab.stanford.edu/people.html

Re: What Your Microbiome Wants for Dinner

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Post by Joof » Sun, Dec 13, 2015, 2:25 PM UTC

scholia wrote: post #94

Joof wrote: post #88

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Sure, but a PhD's area of expertise is increasingly narrow.

The authors are well beyond PhD level. They are supervising PhD students and post-doctoral fellows. http://sonnenburglab.stanford.edu/people.html

Look, I haven't read the book in particular. All I'm saying is that the success outcome of a book has completely different requirements than the success outcome of an academic paper. It's entirely possible that the most well-educated person in a field writes a book that is more interesting to read than it is well-proven.

Even so, I don't personally have enough background in the area to tell you much more than they publish in Journals with a reasonable impact factor. I can assume they know what they are talking about, but no matter the school, no matter the prestige, they could still be wrong and/or poor researchers and/or poor writers. They study ultra-specific things within an ultra-specific field.

Personally, I'd probably enjoy the book.

Re: What Your Microbiome Wants for Dinner

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Post by scholia » Tue, Dec 15, 2015, 10:55 AM UTC

Joof wrote: post #95

scholia wrote: post #94

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The authors are well beyond PhD level. They are supervising PhD students and post-doctoral fellows. http://sonnenburglab.stanford.edu/people.html

Look, I haven't read the book in particular. All I'm saying is that the success outcome of a book has completely different requirements than the success outcome of an academic paper. It's entirely possible that the most well-educated person in a field writes a book that is more interesting to read than it is well-proven. Even so, I don't personally have enough background in the area to tell you much more than they pu…

I don't understand why you're arguing about a book you haven't read.

> no matter the prestige, they could still be wrong and/or poor researchers and/or poor writers

Sure, but those are generalizations, and they don't apply in this case. As you would know if you could be bothered to read it...

Re: What Your Microbiome Wants for Dinner

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Post by OldSchoolJohnny » Thu, Dec 24, 2015, 6:48 PM UTC

kuschku wrote: post #56

OldSchoolJohnny wrote: post #48

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No matter the seed you will find in the vast majority of cases they contain anti-nutrients that are toxic to mammals. Lectins, glutens, phytates, etc.

Since when is gluten "toxic", not just "leads to an allergic reaction in a minority of the population"?

There is far more in wheat than gluten. Seeds of many kinds are filled with specific chemical compounds that are toxic to mammals. Plants actively participate in chemical warfare at many levels, via the roots, leaves and seeds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seed_predation#Seeds_and_their...

Re: What Your Microbiome Wants for Dinner

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Post by OldSchoolJohnny » Thu, Dec 24, 2015, 6:49 PM UTC

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #66

kuschku wrote: post #56

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Since when is gluten "toxic", not just "leads to an allergic reaction in a minority of the population"?

How dare you let reason get in the way of the pitchfork masses.

"Reason"? I think you spelled "assumption" wrong.

Re: What Your Microbiome Wants for Dinner

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Post by OldSchoolJohnny » Thu, Dec 24, 2015, 6:51 PM UTC

nextos wrote: post #57

OldSchoolJohnny wrote: post #48

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No matter the seed you will find in the vast majority of cases they contain anti-nutrients that are toxic to mammals. Lectins, glutens, phytates, etc.

But fermentation (like in sourdough) can fix this right?

Yes, fermentation lowers not only the gluten it also reduces the toxic chemical defenses built into seeds as well in many cases. Beware though, most "sourdough" available in anything less than an artisan bakery is generally standard white dough with lactic acid added to it and some weasel words on the label to make it sound like it's naturally leavened.