Spideroak Kloak: Zero-Knowlege Social Networking

#1

Post by kevinSuttle » Fri, Dec 11, 2015, 10:00 PM UTC

Spideroak Kloak: Zero-Knowlege Social Networking
spideroak.com

Re: Spideroak Kloak: Zero-Knowlege Social Networking

#2

Post by andyburke » Fri, Dec 11, 2015, 10:45 PM UTC

Is this just a loss-leader for their backup/storage service? I am a big fan of not being the product, but how does this make money?

Re: Spideroak Kloak: Zero-Knowlege Social Networking

#3

Post by fweespeech » Fri, Dec 11, 2015, 10:46 PM UTC

Its not a bad idea but its not better than existing products [e.g. TextSecure] in terms of actual privacy.

Re: Spideroak Kloak: Zero-Knowlege Social Networking

#4

Post by andyburke » Fri, Dec 11, 2015, 10:47 PM UTC

andyburke wrote: post #2

Is this just a loss-leader for their backup/storage service? I am a big fan of not being the product, but how does this make money?

Not to mention: if everything is encrypted using your password as a key, how do your friends see your posts? Are they encrypted for each friend with that friend's public key?

Re: Spideroak Kloak: Zero-Knowlege Social Networking

#5

Post by darkstar999 » Fri, Dec 11, 2015, 10:50 PM UTC

andyburke wrote: post #4

andyburke wrote: post #2

Is this just a loss-leader for their backup/storage service? I am a big fan of not being the product, but how does this make money?

Not to mention: if everything is encrypted using your password as a key, how do your friends see your posts? Are they encrypted for each friend with that friend's public key?

> Are they encrypted for each friend with that friend's public key?

That sounds about right. However this is a closed-source project, so I don't see why it would be picked up by privacy enthusiasts.

Re: Spideroak Kloak: Zero-Knowlege Social Networking

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Post by ghayes » Fri, Dec 11, 2015, 11:01 PM UTC

darkstar999 wrote: post #5

andyburke wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention: if everything is encrypted using your password as a key, how do your friends see your posts? Are they encrypted for each friend with that friend's public key?

> Are they encrypted for each friend with that friend's public key? That sounds about right. However this is a closed-source project, so I don't see why it would be picked up by privacy enthusiasts.

Aside of the closed-source aspect, that is a great way to run a secure peer-to-peer messaging platform / social network. I believe this is how iMessage also encrypts communication.

Re: Spideroak Kloak: Zero-Knowlege Social Networking

#7

Post by sp332 » Fri, Dec 11, 2015, 11:04 PM UTC

fweespeech wrote: post #3

Its not a bad idea but its not better than existing products [e.g. TextSecure] in terms of actual privacy.

Signal (formerly TextSecure and RedPhone, now merged) isn't a social networking app.

Re: Spideroak Kloak: Zero-Knowlege Social Networking

#8

Post by sp332 » Fri, Dec 11, 2015, 11:05 PM UTC

Either show my location or don't. Randomizing in a four-mile radius is both compromising and useless.

Re: Spideroak Kloak: Zero-Knowlege Social Networking

#9

Post by nine_k » Fri, Dec 11, 2015, 11:13 PM UTC

andyburke wrote: post #4

andyburke wrote: post #2

Is this just a loss-leader for their backup/storage service? I am a big fan of not being the product, but how does this make money?

Not to mention: if everything is encrypted using your password as a key, how do your friends see your posts? Are they encrypted for each friend with that friend's public key?

Doesn't GPG work in a similar way?

Re: Spideroak Kloak: Zero-Knowlege Social Networking

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Dec 11, 2015, 11:16 PM UTC

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