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Re: Rust 1.5

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Post by untothebreach »

rhodysurf wrote: post #45
kozukumi wrote: post #35

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I hope you are trolling. Would more women in tech be good? Of course! However there is some crazy SJW stuff going on at the moment in a lot of projects. People pushing for things like Master/Slave to be renamed to Leader/Follower. Wanting things like man (as in the man command on Linux) renamed to something non-gender-based. I mean fucking come on. I am all for a more inclusive environment but some things are just st…

Yeah the master/slave thing pisses me off. They are words in the dictionary used to describe something and that is all.

Except that people's experience of words doesn't come from the dictionary. Words aren't experienced in a vacuum, people assign different meanings to words based on their own experiences. To some of us, "master/slave" is just a phrase to describe an architecture. To others of us, it has historical connotations that makes it inappropriate.

Re: Rust 1.5

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Post by lmm »

jeffdavis wrote: post #53

I know this seems like a trivial issue, but I've been bothered by the try!() macro for a while. I keep hoping then will adopt the "?" postfix operator to mean the same thing, because it seems to increase readability a lot. I'm open to other ideas too, but that seemed like the simplest way to get the error handling out of the way. Ordinarily I try hard not to complain about syntax, but this seems to cause people to us…

It seems really wasteful to be working on a specific macro rather than a general-purpose solution (i.e. an equivalent of do notation or scala's for/yield) that will work for things other than error handling.

Re: Rust 1.5

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Post by kbenson »

[deleted] wrote: post #69
steveklabnik wrote: post #57

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No. We release every six weeks, period. Any resemblance to other releases, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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I think he was going for funny. It's a common preamble to TV shows to say "Any resemblance to real people, living or dead, is just a coincidence." It keeps them from getting sued by people.

Re: Rust 1.5

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Post by steveklabnik »

lmm wrote: post #72
jeffdavis wrote: post #53

I know this seems like a trivial issue, but I've been bothered by the try!() macro for a while. I keep hoping then will adopt the "?" postfix operator to mean the same thing, because it seems to increase readability a lot. I'm open to other ideas too, but that seemed like the simplest way to get the error handling out of the way. Ordinarily I try hard not to complain about syntax, but this seems to cause people to us…

It seems really wasteful to be working on a specific macro rather than a general-purpose solution (i.e. an equivalent of do notation or scala's for/yield) that will work for things other than error handling.

If you want duck-typed do, there's https://crates.io/crates/mdo

If you want real do, and I do, then you need HKT, which is a massive upgrade to our type system that will take a very long time. If we can do something simpler in the meantime to ease some pain, then it's worth it.

Re: Rust 1.5

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Post by nova »

rewqfdsa wrote: post #39
andyl wrote: post #38

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"Rust goes out of its way to be modern and gender-inclusive." And yet - epic fail. What is the reason?

> What is the reason? Maybe men and women are different

Come on. Everyone knows evolution is a social construct.

Re: Rust 1.5

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Post by lmm »

mangeletti wrote: post #11

I've been excited to try Rust for some time now, but I've been holding off, only because I'm primarily developing web applications and I've heard from a few people that Rust is better suited for other tasks (based on the built-ins, packages, etc.?), despite there being at least a few frameworks out there. What are your thoughts on this? Have things changed? Is the assumption just dead wrong, and Rust is in fact treme…

Rust is immature in general. It will probably make a perfectly good language for web, comparable to e.g. OCaml, though the manual memory management is always going to add a little bit of overhead. IMO the web is a lot like anything else, and the best web languages are just the best general-purpose programming languages.

Re: Rust 1.5

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Post by rspeer »

eddyb wrote: post #37
steveklabnik wrote: post #19

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I have historically been skeptical of Rust as an application-tier language, but my experiments with it as of late have made me reconsider a bit. The largest weakness, imho, is the lack of libraries for various standards and formats: do you really want to implement OAuth yourself? (EDIT: Apparently we do have OAuth now. ha!) The maturity of the Rails ecosystem has spoiled me. Here's a random fact that I've always foun…

I have witnessed someone implementing OAuth2 themselves: https://crates.io/crates/inth-oauth2 I hope they solved the problem permanently, since this is the third crate attempting OAuth2 and the first two are abandoned/incomplete.

I don't even know what a "complete" OAuth2 library would be. One that not only deals with the quirks of existing services that use OAuth2, but anticipates all future ones?
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