Browsing the names of contributors, I was surprised at the lack of gender diversity. Four or five female contributors at the very most. Rates of female participation below 5% - wow. Why is Rust lang so anti-female?
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Rust 1.5
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Re: Rust 1.5
#32Browsing the names of contributors, I was surprised at the lack of gender diversity. Four or five female contributors at the very most. Rates of female participation below 5% - wow. Why is Rust lang so anti-female?
Sadly, this isn't even unusual. Open source developers as a whole are 90% male or more; some older surveys found the number higher than 98%. http://readwrite.com/2013/12/11/open-source-diversity
As a long-time member of the Rust community I am seeing this changing over time, but much more slowly than I'd like. Rust is a very friendly community; we have an actively-enforced code of conduct (which has been in place since the project started >5 years ago); and some people in the community have recently put resources into things like sponsoring women and minorities to go to the first http://rustcamp.com/ conference. The RustCamp CFP had a blind review process to help avoid bias. The Servo team is currently sponsoring an Outreachy intern. And we are definitely looking for more ways to be as welcoming as possible to everyone.
Re: Rust 1.5
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm particularly interested in incremental recompilation. From what I can see it hasn't landed yet (?) - but I can't seem to find any ETA on when it will.
There isn't a strong ETA, no. Everything about internals is basically waiting until after the HIR/MIR work lands, as it would end up changing a lot anyway, so that's where the focus is at the moment. That doesn't mean the _discussion_ about how it works has to stop in the meantime, though...
Well even a guesstimate would be nice :)
I've been following Rust from sidelines before 1.0 and from my perspective there are advantages but I can also see a lot of pain in porting stuff and moving over and I right now the benefits don't outweigh the risk and cost for me - but having a fast build system (which implies incremental recompilation) along with a default package manager (which it already has) would be enough for me to start working with it seriously.
It's kind of sad that building code is such an instrumental part of developing C++ when it's just about dealing with technical issues of the compiler/language/tools and not the problems I'm trying to solve - anything that gets me away from that while leaving me with similar level of memory control and portability is a big win for me.
So when should I be looking back at it ? 6 months ?
Re: Rust 1.5
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
If not for Rust, would you write your app in C++ or Python/Ruby/JS?
Python (currently using), or Go. Add JS to that list as well, because I've done a little bit of work in Node, but that was before Coroutines (back in the days of yore when "callback hell" was a thing), so I wasn't nearly as excited at the time as I probably would be now.
So no, Rust is not a good option :)
Re: Rust 1.5
#35Browsing the names of contributors, I was surprised at the lack of gender diversity. Four or five female contributors at the very most. Rates of female participation below 5% - wow. Why is Rust lang so anti-female?
I hope you are trolling.
Would more women in tech be good? Of course! However there is some crazy SJW stuff going on at the moment in a lot of projects. People pushing for things like Master/Slave to be renamed to Leader/Follower. Wanting things like man (as in the man command on Linux) renamed to something non-gender-based. I mean fucking come on.
I am all for a more inclusive environment but some things are just stupid and it is getting a little crazy in place.
Re: Rust 1.5
#36Browsing the names of contributors, I was surprised at the lack of gender diversity. Four or five female contributors at the very most. Rates of female participation below 5% - wow. Why is Rust lang so anti-female?
I find it shocking that you assume gender based on name.
Re: Rust 1.5
#37I've been excited to try Rust for some time now, but I've been holding off, only because I'm primarily developing web applications and I've heard from a few people that Rust is better suited for other tasks (based on the built-ins, packages, etc.?), despite there being at least a few frameworks out there. What are your thoughts on this? Have things changed? Is the assumption just dead wrong, and Rust is in fact treme…
I have historically been skeptical of Rust as an application-tier language, but my experiments with it as of late have made me reconsider a bit. The largest weakness, imho, is the lack of libraries for various standards and formats: do you really want to implement OAuth yourself? (EDIT: Apparently we do have OAuth now. ha!) The maturity of the Rails ecosystem has spoiled me. Here's a random fact that I've always foun…
I have witnessed someone implementing OAuth2 themselves:
https://crates.io/crates/inth-oauth2
I hope they solved the problem permanently, since this is the third crate attempting OAuth2 and the first two are abandoned/incomplete.
Re: Rust 1.5
#38Browsing the names of contributors, I was surprised at the lack of gender diversity. Four or five female contributors at the very most. Rates of female participation below 5% - wow. Why is Rust lang so anti-female?
Don't you have anything better to do than gender-troll? Like write some code, maybe? For god's sake, Rust goes out of its way to be modern and gender-inclusive. They have a god damn code of conduct, explicitly encourage participation from everyone, and actively seek contributors of all types. What the else should they fucking do? Posts like yours just demonstrate that you can never win by giving into SJW demands. No…
"Rust goes out of its way to be modern and gender-inclusive."
And yet - epic fail.
What is the reason?
Re: Rust 1.5
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't you have anything better to do than gender-troll? Like write some code, maybe? For god's sake, Rust goes out of its way to be modern and gender-inclusive. They have a god damn code of conduct, explicitly encourage participation from everyone, and actively seek contributors of all types. What the else should they fucking do? Posts like yours just demonstrate that you can never win by giving into SJW demands. No…
"Rust goes out of its way to be modern and gender-inclusive." And yet - epic fail. What is the reason?
> What is the reason?
Maybe men and women are different
Re: Rust 1.5
#40Browsing the names of contributors, I was surprised at the lack of gender diversity. Four or five female contributors at the very most. Rates of female participation below 5% - wow. Why is Rust lang so anti-female?
Sadly, this isn't even unusual. Open source developers as a whole are 90% male or more; some older surveys found the number higher than 98%. http://readwrite.com/2013/12/11/open-source-diversity As a long-time member of the Rust community I am seeing this changing over time, but much more slowly than I'd like. Rust is a very friendly community; we have an actively-enforced code of conduct (which has been in place sin…
As a long time member of the Rust community (since the beginning of 2013), I don't see much improvement, if at all. I wonder why we have different perception of the issue.