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Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#161

This is a business I know well. Jukedeck is an example of how founders and investors do not conduct appropriate market research. There is a limited market demand for low-cost royalty-free music for videos. One could argue there is an oversupply* of royalty-free music relative to buyers. The quality is not good enough to disrupt the billion dollar Production music industry that is top heavy, a relative small amount of…

I disagree. I think the market is HUGE. Content creation is a big deal.

Agree to some degree, -I jokingly say that there is a lot of music that would be improved if the artist could just shut up while performing.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#162

This is a business I know well. Jukedeck is an example of how founders and investors do not conduct appropriate market research. There is a limited market demand for low-cost royalty-free music for videos. One could argue there is an oversupply* of royalty-free music relative to buyers. The quality is not good enough to disrupt the billion dollar Production music industry that is top heavy, a relative small amount of…

I really don't agree. I like the interface and it's simple. I make indie games, but I suck at music creation. As of today I'm a paying member, just bought some menu music.

Thanks so much - really glad to hear you made some music on our platform. I'd love to see the game you use it in when it's finished!

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#163

This could replace my spotify subscription at all. It's exciting to hear a song that I and a software have made for the first time and maybe I am the only one who ever listens to it*. Michael from Vsauce talked about 'will we ever run out of new music?' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAcjV60RnRw

That's a really interesting way of using this - to make music that no one else will hear. We might explore that some more!

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#164

This is incredibly cool! Really well done. The entire experience with creating and listening to the tracks feels really good. I'm going to be using this for my next product demo video. It's crazy how good the tracks sound. One thing that would be nice is the ability (like some others have stated) to tweak the generated sound. For example, there might be a lull at 0:24 but given my video it would be best for the lull…

Thanks so much @ianstormtaylor - really glad you like the experience and the music.

Totally agreed - it would be great to be able to tweak the generated sound. This is something we want to open up as a possibility asap.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#165

This is incredibly cool! Really well done. The entire experience with creating and listening to the tracks feels really good. I'm going to be using this for my next product demo video. It's crazy how good the tracks sound. One thing that would be nice is the ability (like some others have stated) to tweak the generated sound. For example, there might be a lull at 0:24 but given my video it would be best for the lull…

I agree, I'd love to be able to tweak tracks after they're generated. Also I noticed in long tracks, like 5min+, that it gets a little repetitive, like the algorithm is trying to pad it out. At least in the few I created, could be a fluke.

It does sometimes get a little repetitive - that's something we're working on improving. This is one of the reasons we've limited tracks to 5 minutes long for now.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#166
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According to their pricing page ( https://www.jukedeck.com/pricing ), you can use the track free of royalty, but if you want to actually own it, you have to pay $199. But this falls kind of in a gray area. If the AI created the tracks, why does the company own the copyright (and thus, have the right to sell it)? In December 2014, the United States Copyright Office stated that works created by a non-human are not subj…

US law in this area is interesting. There is no "sweat of the brow" copyright in the US. This was clearly established in Feist vs. Rural Telephone , the Supreme Court decision that it was permissible to copy data from telephone books into a database. The Constitution gives Congress the power "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right…

  > You can make a strong argument that under US law, works
  > created by computers are not copyrightable.
I'm genuinely not sure what "works created by computers" means.

I don't know exactly how Jukedeck works, but it seems self evident that it is the product of a huge number of creative decisions - which sound samples to include or generate, which sounds can be combined in a pleasing way, which melodic patterns are appropriate for various genres, how melodic patterns are modulated over time, etc. etc.

It's not as if the Jukedeck team created a general purpose AI and said "go make some music". They designed a system that can generate a limited (though large) range of music based on their own sense of creativity, taste and style. I argue that the music generated by such a system is clearly creative expression and thus subject to copyright to the same degree as traditional creative expression.

I do not think "sweat of the brow" decisions are relevant here. The lack of "sweat of the brow" copyright means that simply performing labor without a creative element does not qualify the product of that labor for copyright protection. There must be a creative spark present in the generation or transformation of the work.

The fact that, with Jukedeck, the creative spark happens at the time of producing and editing the code rather than at the time of the code generating the music is not relevant in my opinion.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#167

For context - I'm building autonomous Escape Rooms that react to the player's actions. We currently have several long tracks that fit various sections of the games, and we switch between them at story junctures, by playing loud sound effects that mask the transitions. I would pay in the order of thousands of $ (pounds in your case...) for this system running locally in my network, and in what I would call 'continuous…

Thanks so much Schwolop - glad you like the tracks you made! Do you have a site for what you're doing? I'd love to get in touch about a potential collaboration.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#168

To me the exciting thing about automatic music composition isn't royalty-free prerecorded music, but the potential for real-time composition. Imagine a video game where your actions instantly affect the music, not just by splicing together prerecorded clips but actually by having new music composed and performed in real time. Or, somewhat more fancifully, imagine a set of headphones that play a continuous soundtrack…

They did live mixing of the music in SSX Tricky. Here's a video with Mix Master Mike talking about it, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0RyEysTZwY

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#169
post #151

Really cool product! Lots of good feedback on the page so I'm sure that's exciting. A lot of people are mentioning video games, but another interesting use case for real-time streaming would be for running. There's tons of data on my smartphone that can help inform where the music might want to go next. Would definitely be cool to have my own personal band synced with my body's running rhythm.

Thanks @Dwolb - great idea, and this is actually one of the things we're thinking about. We'll be announcing new products as and when they're released on our mailing list!
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