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Being homeless a struggle, even with a $100k job offer

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Small, safe spaces. That is... I went onto the streets to escape poverty, violence and sexual abuse. For me a hostel was not a safe space, so I didn't even successfully make it onto the first rung of support. It was hostels that distributed information on where to get food and such, so I missed that too. So there needs to be a better support system for those sleeping rough, and that needs to recognise the flaws in th…

One thing I'm curious about, if you're willing to share, is what makes hostels and shelters unsafe. There are several people on here who mention hostels or shelters not being safe for them, and I've never quite understood what would cause that, given that the entire point of a shelter is to offer a safe space, isn't it? What are the common failings there? What makes the safety of a shelter vary between different peop…

What does a hostel offer?

A roof? Is that all a homeless person needs?

For me what I needed, because I came from a place that of violence and abuse, was to feel safety of person and possession.

In many ways, that sense of security trumped everything.

And if you take a teenager that has gone through that and chosen the street over a roof at home... then changing the roof and being surrounded by strangers, some of whom suffer from mental illness and can be violent themselves... a hostel doesn't deliver on safety.

I only stayed in a few, they were how I imagine US summer camps to be. Rooms containing a number of bunk beds, anything from 4 to 8 people in a room.

The ones I experienced separated on gender as you would expect, but didn't separate on age, or other needs.

When I landed on the street I was frightened, crushingly shy, a victim all the way through. A hostel was a brutal experience, horrifying to me in those early weeks on the street in ways that sleeping under bushes, on industrial estates and on building sites just wasn't.

I had a different set of problems outside, namely the weather, shelter and warmth. But what I had with some planning was a sense of security, a sense that my possessions and myself were safe. That the very worst that could happen would just be to be moved on.

Those were things I felt were in my control. I felt safer on the street.

I should note that I didn't spend every night of 2.5 years sleeping rough. I was young, and learned fairly quickly to seek out Universities, find the student union bar, arrive late afternoon and read a book, and then wait for people to arrive so that I could chat to people. From there the opportunities opened up, and there was a good chance that if I overcome shyness, didn't scare them with the state of me, and everything was cool, that for one night there was going to be a bed, a shower, and some toast. I became quite good at this, but never stayed in a city more than a couple of nights before hitching elsewhere so that I never overstayed a welcome and doing this meant I could have a few nights a week on a sofa of someone my age who had a kind heart.

Re: Being homeless a struggle, even with a $100k job offer

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One thing I'm curious about is how he actually ended up homeless. Before the conviction, it seems like he was doing very well (BMW, townhouse). Why did he not have sufficient savings to survive after he got out of prison? (Not trying to blame him for anything, trying to plan for my own life. I strive to maintain sufficient savings so that I would never be homeless even if I never worked again.)

I suspect any savings he did have would have gone to his legal defense. It's an all or nothing thing, you wouldn't hold back if you were wrongly accused and had everything to lose (as demonstrated).

In the comments, if that is actually him posting under his name, he says "I was in Debt and had JUST started that particular contract ,,an attorney wanted 10.000 up front and I did not have it !! ."

Re: Being homeless a struggle, even with a $100k job offer

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I was homeless for about a year and a half. The first 6 months were spent sleeping on the streets, and when possible, in a shelter - but realistically, in the area where I was, most shelters were not really a safe place to be, and the few that were filled up early. The remaining time, I crashed at a drug dealers house and helped sell in return. I didn't have much more than the belongings that fit in a mid-sized duffl…

Fully escaped? I've spoken openly of my 30 months sleeping rough on the streets of the UK. I may have "escaped" homelessness, but the mental scars accumulated whilst on the street do still haunt me. I feel it, the sense of worthlessness, the self-doubt. There's a feeling that I shouldn't be alive let alone here in this workplace or surrounded by good people, a feeling that I don't quite belong. One can put a roof ove…

>There's a feeling that I shouldn't be alive let alone here in this workplace or surrounded by good people, a feeling that I don't quite belong.

Funny. I've never been homeless, and that's how I feel a lot of the time.

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Many companies offer relocation packages including travel costs and temporary accommodation.

Yes but they expect you to pay and they'll reimburse you. Not saying it never happens any other way, but that's the only way I've ever seen it done.

Not necessarily. My last internship paid my relocation expenses, they just mailed me a visa gift card with the money a month or two before I started.

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Sounds like an entrepreneur to me.

Sure, if you disregard all the damage that crack cocaine specifically does to individuals and society.

You don't have to make the world a better place to start a business.

Re: Being homeless a struggle, even with a $100k job offer

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One thing I'm curious about is how he actually ended up homeless. Before the conviction, it seems like he was doing very well (BMW, townhouse). Why did he not have sufficient savings to survive after he got out of prison? (Not trying to blame him for anything, trying to plan for my own life. I strive to maintain sufficient savings so that I would never be homeless even if I never worked again.)

1 year is a long time to keep paying bills - especially from inside prison.

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In a roundabout way, this is related to the big data world we live in, even though background checks & credit checks are not new. From the perspective on a motor insurance company, for example, they don't need to serve everyone. If they can classify the world of potential drivers as high, medium & low risk, that's enough. Whether or not an individual falls into one of these categories "incorrectly" is not important,…

Okay, but it should work in the reverse too. Just as there are ways to grind through the data and find non-obvious signals against an employee, there should be the same for signals in favor of an employee. And there should be just as much incentive for big data techniques to help identify undervalued employees. For example, I'm sure you can find a separation between "vagrants who can code" and "vagrants who can't". (…

Sure. It's possible. There certainly are positives to data centric decisions too. But generally, a technique similar to credit checks, background checks, risk assessment, health assesments and such will play against positive outliers.

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May I ask: What would have helped? And what would help now? Homeless people and people who are vulnerably housed in the UK have pretty lousy treatment from "services", a lot of which is provided by faith and voluntary groups. There are huge amounts of stigma, and a lot of misunderstanding of alcoholism and drug use and mental illness.

Small, safe spaces. That is... I went onto the streets to escape poverty, violence and sexual abuse. For me a hostel was not a safe space, so I didn't even successfully make it onto the first rung of support. It was hostels that distributed information on where to get food and such, so I missed that too. So there needs to be a better support system for those sleeping rough, and that needs to recognise the flaws in th…

> I think instead of that, there should be spaces smaller than a studio apartment that are transition spaces. They should be private, but perhaps clustered so that there is a support network there. People should be given help on how to do things, simple things like how to shop and eat better, how to take care of a home and manage the utilities and bills, how to basically live normally again and construct those routines. How to not shrink into that space and be alone.

> I did meet a lot of people with mental illnesses, I don't believe anyone can wave a magic wand and get them off the streets. But we can have the structure in place to help them so that when they are ready, it's possible.

I think you just described a hospital. Don't get me wrong it'd be a hospital that would need more resources than they do now, but maybe that's where this process could start? Especially where the homelessness is caused by mental illness

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It's a bit weird though. Why couldn't he just rent a house/borrow money to pay for a temporary residence, then pay off using his paycheck? If his case was indeed already listed as exonerated, then he should be able to at least take some loans. But indeed, whetehr he was truly guilty or not, the stigma put on people via even just one conviction is just horrible. This seems such an ancient and brutal practice in today's world.
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