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Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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According to their pricing page ( https://www.jukedeck.com/pricing ), you can use the track free of royalty, but if you want to actually own it, you have to pay $199. But this falls kind of in a gray area. If the AI created the tracks, why does the company own the copyright (and thus, have the right to sell it)? In December 2014, the United States Copyright Office stated that works created by a non-human are not subj…

> If the AI created the tracks, why does the company own the copyright Uh, do you think there's a sentient being here? Its just a relatively simple algorithm here (at least compared to sci-fi style AI), the same kind of thing that decides how to autofix colors in photos or do a transform in photoshop. Dynamic music generation has been a thing since at least the 80s. I think I had an Apple// program that did this. >wo…

The program wouldn't own the copyright, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the company which made the program would own the copyright. It could end up public domain.

E.g. the recently infamous selfie by a monkey was ruled public domain, having been produced by a non-human.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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According to their pricing page ( https://www.jukedeck.com/pricing ), you can use the track free of royalty, but if you want to actually own it, you have to pay $199. But this falls kind of in a gray area. If the AI created the tracks, why does the company own the copyright (and thus, have the right to sell it)? In December 2014, the United States Copyright Office stated that works created by a non-human are not subj…

This isn't a legal opinion and shouldn't be taken as legal advice.

Interestingly, I think New Zealand law does have this case covered. There's special mention of "computer-generated" works under Section 5[1] of the Copyright Act which states (as I read it) that the person who wrote the computer program to generate the audio is the author of the audio.

[1] http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1994/0143/latest/D...

EDIT: Had another read and thought that actually it could also be the person that inputted their choices into the computer program that undertook "the arrangements necessary for the creation of the work"... Copyright is a murky section of law.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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Does anyone (perhaps a music theorist) know what rules determine what notes sound well following each other/together? I find an interesting parallel between 1/2/4/8 repeating beats/parts in songs, and binary...

the parallel is divisibility by 2.

re: what determines what sounds good, in some sense you can read up on music theory for this (scales / keys). in a more basic sense ("why is this sad and this happy?") it's actually an open and actively researched question in the physics of music. it's anyone's guess, really, why certain melodies are pleasant. is it a physical/structural/formal feature of the sound itself? is it a feature of our psychology or neurological makeup? who knows.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the AI created the tracks, why does the company own the copyright Uh, do you think there's a sentient being here? Its just a relatively simple algorithm here (at least compared to sci-fi style AI), the same kind of thing that decides how to autofix colors in photos or do a transform in photoshop. Dynamic music generation has been a thing since at least the 80s. I think I had an Apple// program that did this. >wo…

The program wouldn't own the copyright, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the company which made the program would own the copyright. It could end up public domain. E.g. the recently infamous selfie by a monkey was ruled public domain, having been produced by a non-human. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie

Software expressly created by a human here.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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post #5

According to their pricing page ( https://www.jukedeck.com/pricing ), you can use the track free of royalty, but if you want to actually own it, you have to pay $199. But this falls kind of in a gray area. If the AI created the tracks, why does the company own the copyright (and thus, have the right to sell it)? In December 2014, the United States Copyright Office stated that works created by a non-human are not subj…

> If the AI created the tracks, why does the company own the copyright Uh, do you think there's a sentient being here? Its just a relatively simple algorithm here (at least compared to sci-fi style AI), the same kind of thing that decides how to autofix colors in photos or do a transform in photoshop. Dynamic music generation has been a thing since at least the 80s. I think I had an Apple// program that did this. >wo…

There is no point in the process where a human puts a creative stamp on the result. Your chiptunes did. This is effectively a fancy PRNG tuned to create appealing patterns. Copyright doesn't apply to non-creative works.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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post #9

The output is interesting... decent enough for an ambient background track! An interesting Version 2 would be a way to construct a song for a particular video (perhaps ingesting the Adobe Premiere project file)... Making sure the downbeats are synchronized to visual cuts, being able to switch moods when the video calls for it, and perhaps even tweaking the video timing to match the rhythm (a Premiere plugin could all…

The believe Shred Video app does something similar. You select an audio and video file, and it splices the video content to match the beats of the audio.
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