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Re: Focus by Firefox, a Content Blocker for iOS

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If the app uses a 'Safari View Controller' then it works just fine... That is something app developers can opt-in to, and it also provides the fastest browsing experience for users.

So that's why Twitter web views have ads even with content blockers enabled? What's holding Twitter back? They've had updates recently.

Safari View Controller can't be branded to fit with Twitter's app design.

Re: Focus by Firefox, a Content Blocker for iOS

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post #231
post #44

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If the app uses a 'Safari View Controller' then it works just fine... That is something app developers can opt-in to, and it also provides the fastest browsing experience for users.

So that's why Twitter web views have ads even with content blockers enabled? What's holding Twitter back? They've had updates recently.

>What's holding Twitter back?

Their desire for advertising revenue perhaps.

Re: Focus by Firefox, a Content Blocker for iOS

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If it's anything like the ones I looked at a while back, it goes through a proxy to strip the ads. So all of your web browsing goes through a 3rd party. I'm no technical wiz on such things, but I can't think of how else it could work without being an Apple-approved Safari extension.

It could run a local proxy on the device itself, perhaps. I know iPhone apps can expose HTTP servers to other devices on WiFi for file sharing, so I wouldn't be surprised if you can expose it to localhost too.

Mm, good point, and given that I actually wrote a baby web server for serving up docs a long time ago, I'm disappointed that it didn't occur to me. In fact, I wonder why more don't do that. All of the ones I looked at (and it's hardly an all-encompassing list) seemed to do it through a proxy that the dev hosted.

Re: Focus by Firefox, a Content Blocker for iOS

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They're now favoring Firefox branding over Mozilla branding?

For tech people, Mozilla makes sense. But your average user's probably only heard of Firefox.

Meanwhile, I'm very disappointed in the expectation of abandonment of the email client I've been using for over 10 years.

Re: Focus by Firefox, a Content Blocker for iOS

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Have you considered that maybe it just isn't quite as simple a problem as you imagine?

Of course. And my conclusion is that, while the problem is hard, it can be solved. That it's not solved is either a lack of skill or a lack of will (or some combination thereof), not because it's an impossible task. On Apple's side, they don't care in the least about the poor experience of third-party developers, as has been proven many times throughout the years. They're also struggling to keep a massive system goin…

> And my conclusion is that, while the problem is hard, it can be solved

And yet two of the biggest software companies on the planet, both who have a huge vested interest in getting people to use their respective app stores, haven't just magically fixed it yet.

I'm also calling bullshit on your claim of not being unnecessarily anti-Apple, or giving Google a free pass or whatever. Every single negative comment you've made about this has been targeted specifically at Apple, making literally no mention of Google's App store which has exactly the same "problem".

By your own claim, the problem should be easier to solve than general web indexing, which Google clearly have a lot more experience in than Apple - so if it's "zero motivation" from Apple, what is it from Google, sheer contempt?

Re: Focus by Firefox, a Content Blocker for iOS

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Well... One of the best selling paid versions, Crystal, is going to allow companies to pay for "acceptable ads." Personally, I think the people who paid for blockers were ripped off, there's nothing special or difficult in building a content blocker: 1. The majority of the value, the blocking list, it readily available and actively maintained. 2. Performance and integration into iOS is provided by Apple, you simply p…

So why should anyone make a content blocker, unless they're someone with a mission to do so, like Mozilla or the EFF?

I get the feeling that you have some deep seated capitalistic ideals. Do you do anything that you can't make money from?

I can think of a few reasons to make a content blocker:

1. Improve privacy for users on the Internet.

2. Decrease cost and speed for people who pay for data, or have bad connections.

3. Challenge revenue streams of large corporations.

4. Fame.

5. Improve strangers lives.

Re: Focus by Firefox, a Content Blocker for iOS

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For tech people, Mozilla makes sense. But your average user's probably only heard of Firefox.

Meanwhile, I'm very disappointed in the expectation of abandonment of the email client I've been using for over 10 years.

It's not abandoned, Mozilla are simply not funding development themselves. Like SeaMonkey, it is community-maintained.

Re: Focus by Firefox, a Content Blocker for iOS

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Of course. And my conclusion is that, while the problem is hard, it can be solved. That it's not solved is either a lack of skill or a lack of will (or some combination thereof), not because it's an impossible task. On Apple's side, they don't care in the least about the poor experience of third-party developers, as has been proven many times throughout the years. They're also struggling to keep a massive system goin…

> And my conclusion is that, while the problem is hard, it can be solved And yet two of the biggest software companies on the planet, both who have a huge vested interest in getting people to use their respective app stores, haven't just magically fixed it yet. I'm also calling bullshit on your claim of not being unnecessarily anti-Apple, or giving Google a free pass or whatever. Every single negative comment you've…

> Every single negative comment you've made about this has been targeted specifically at Apple, making literally no mention of Google's App store which has exactly the same "problem".

I've been an Apple user for almost 30 years. I've been involved with the App Store since before it was available to the public. The only smartphones I've ever owned personally have been iPhones.

I simply don't use Google Play. I've done some Android development, but other people always handled the distribution end of things.

I am commenting personally, based on my own personal experience. I have no idea why you think I would or should be fair and balanced in this, analyzing Google Play with the same force I do the App Store. I'm not in a position to comment on Google Play. I used Google search as a comparison because I use that many times a day.

Why is every single negative comment I've made about this targeted specifically at Apple? Because that's the freakin' topic of of the freakin' conversation here, and because it's what I know.

Go get someone with years of experience dealing with Google Play if you want that perspective. Don't hassle me for not providing it for you.

Re: Focus by Firefox, a Content Blocker for iOS

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post #247

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So why should anyone make a content blocker, unless they're someone with a mission to do so, like Mozilla or the EFF?

I get the feeling that you have some deep seated capitalistic ideals. Do you do anything that you can't make money from? I can think of a few reasons to make a content blocker: 1. Improve privacy for users on the Internet. 2. Decrease cost and speed for people who pay for data, or have bad connections. 3. Challenge revenue streams of large corporations. 4. Fame. 5. Improve strangers lives.

Those are good reasons. But I don't see anything about why one shouldn't be paid for it.
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