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Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Post by porsupah »

scott_karana wrote: post #41

> Yes, San Francisco has been skipped again and I’m going to go cry into my slow internet from Comcast. I seriously still cannot get over how funny this is. SF pitches itself as the centre of the tech universe, and yet, it still hasn't "disrupted" its own crappy broadband infrastructure. (Much less the rest of the country's!) I'm sure there's many good reasons for Google passing them over, but that doesn't keep it fr…

Relatedly, AT&T will be rolling out gigabit service in San Francisco, San Jose, and Oakland in 2016:

http://www.mercurynews.com/san-francisco/ci_29214143/at-t-bi...

The caveat, of course, being that not everyone in these cities will be covered.

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Post by vasilipupkin »

lhc- wrote: post #59
cballard wrote: post #37

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> worried it will lead to the incarceration of multiple public officials Would that be a bad thing? I'm in New York, and I'll dance in the street if (when?) Preet Bharara charges Cuomo.

It doesn't really change anything in Chicago. While it might be nice to get some individual corrupt official(s) where they belong, Chicago as a whole shows no evidence that it's becoming less corrupt.

I think it is significantly less corrupt than under Daleys. You are confusing levels and changes. It is still very corrupt, just less so

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Post by vasilipupkin »

pasbesoin wrote: post #143
toomuchtodo wrote: post #8

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http://pols.uic.edu/political-science/chicago-politics > The Windy City has kept its crown as the most corrupt major city in the country over the last 40 years. But Houston is starting to give Chicago a run for its money. > According to new research released today by University of Illinois at Chicago political science professor Dick Simpson, there were 45 convictions for public corruption in 2013 (the latest year ava…

Chicago has a habit of not even negotiating good terms, while turning over public infrastructure to private enterprise in 99 year leases. A short term cash fix comes at the expense of bleeding citizens for the next 5 generations or so. The Skyway. The parking garages. The parking meters. Traffic law enforcement going to faulty and corrupt traffic camera companies, based/excused upon arguments that are suspect at best…

ironically, the current mayor got a big commission check from the banks for facilitating some of those bad deals.

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Post by andrewchambers »

platz wrote: post #49
toomuchtodo wrote: post #8

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http://pols.uic.edu/political-science/chicago-politics > The Windy City has kept its crown as the most corrupt major city in the country over the last 40 years. But Houston is starting to give Chicago a run for its money. > According to new research released today by University of Illinois at Chicago political science professor Dick Simpson, there were 45 convictions for public corruption in 2013 (the latest year ava…

so the more convictions, the more corrupt?

There will be plenty more not getting caught

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Post by davidf18 »

ugh123 wrote: post #123
davidf18 wrote: post #121

Congrats to the residents of Chicago and LA for having the local government leadership to work with Google. I wish I could say the same for NYC where I live. Despite the fact that Google owns one of the largest office buildings in the city where many engineers and other staff work, there is no Google fiber here. Sadly, the mayor seems more focused attempting to slow the growth of Uber until the residents vociferously…

> popular horse drawn carriages Popular with whom? The minimal revenue it brings from primarily tourists? Most of the backlash has come from NYC residents who deplore the conditions for the horses. The welfare of the horses should take precedence over the minimal revenue they bring.

According to a recent NYTimes article, most New Yorkers like the horse drawn carriages but the mayor made a commitment to a group that spent $1 million for ads against Ms. Quinn who was the mayor's leading competitor.

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Post by yeukhon »

skorecky wrote: post #6
nkrisc wrote: post #3

As a Chicagoan I'm excited, but also worried it will lead to the incarceration of multiple public officials and a raw deal for the city, somehow.

> incarceration of multiple public officials and a raw deal for the city. What? How?

The short-lived TV series Boss would tell you about the Chicago climate. Since I don't have first hand experience living in Chicago, I cannot compare Chicago to NYC, but from the sound of comments and the TV series, Chicago seems to be pretty notorious.

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Post by nomel »

tdaltonc wrote: post #147
HillaryBriss wrote: post #135

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Just curious: what specific factor(s) make you consider the move? I mean, in your view, what are the big draws to SF, things that LA either lacks or has only in low quantity/quality?

We[0] make SAAS for developers, so we expect a lot more of our customers to be in the bay. There’s also a deeper market for technical talent and VC capital. LA has a lot of lifestyle perks (beach, forests, desert, great weather, more daylight in the summer, more sqft of office/apartments per $). I imagine that the bars and restaurants in LA are better (but I don’t know). So mostly, The Bay is where to ecosystem is. […

Nice "Invalid security certificate" popup you have there?

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Post by adventured »

thrownaway2424 wrote: post #153
awqrre wrote: post #134

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sorry, I was trying to put it in perspective...

It's a valuable exercise. My favorite example is that for the same cost as the Iraq War, the USA could have bought Canada.

That's actually amusing, but of course far off the mark.

Iraq has a current price tag of $2 trillion (including benefits owed over time that were caused by the war).

Both wars together are now at around $4 trillion, spanning the last 14 years.

Canada would cost at least 20 times the Iraq war if you count land, financial + household + business assets and natural resources. Canadian households, including real estate, have $5 to $7 trillion in assets (depending on when you calculate due to the currency).

They have ~170 billion barrels of proven oil reserves (it's likely far more than that). Let's go with something reasonable like 150b that is sanely recoverable, but only 100b is economical or environmentally tolerable before the end of the fossil fuel age (but you'd still have to pay for most of it to buy Canada today). That's $4 trillion just in that oil calculation at today's low price. Canada probably has $8 to $10 trillion just in natural resources. Granted, I know it's ridiculous that Iraq was so expensive you could buy maybe 5% of everything in Canada (or 1/3 of all their household assets).

The US certainly could have purchased Greenland for $2 trillion (if such a thing were politically possible today, which it's not). With global warming, not a bad purchase.

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Post by pizza »

samstave wrote: post #124
mikeyouse wrote: post #48

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Chris Sacca (of Twitter / Uber investing fame) spent months / years of his life working for Google trying to get San Francisco to agree to install free, city-wide WiFi paid for by Google. It didn't happen. http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/S-F-stalling-Wi-Fi-plans-...

Heh - I was doing this before Chris Sacca was! Listen to what happened: We were seeking to build wifi and wanted to get the city to allow us to put the nema boxes on street lights and stop lights. I cant recall the officials name now (this was ~2002 or so) -- and they came back and stated they wanted video cameras on all stop lights. They then said that they wanted "at least 60 frames per second" and that they wouldn…

Wow.
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