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Re: Dropbox closing Carousel and Mailbox

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Post by azinman2 »

automathematics wrote: post #276
azinman2 wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still love Apple Mail... and it's native. In fact I think it's the best email platform out there currently, although I haven't tried N1 yet. I'd like Inbox-like features theoretically, but the fundamental UX/UI is done better than anyone else IMHO.

If you mean OSX do this: - Open Mail, roughly time how long it takes from left pane click to message fully rendered on the right (~2-3 seconds) - Open Dropbox (fast before it goes away!) and do the same (~250ms) I get roughly 100-150 emails overnight that I go through in the morning. At 2-3 seconds PER THREAD render this is insanely unproductive use of my time. Every time I open OSX Mail I have this exact process in…

Not sure what's happening with your setup. For me it's nearly instant. Some long long threads or heavy HTML can be up to about 800ms.

I'm also talking about my iOS experience. There are some perf issues that would be nice, but for me that's mostly in search and initial sync than stuff that's already downloaded.

Re: Dropbox closing Carousel and Mailbox

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Post by viraptor »

hussong wrote: post #340
x0x0 wrote: post #261

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Not to mention, if you're old like me, you remember paying (I think?) $100 and then eventually $49 for eudora / upgrades for eudora. In approx 1990 dollars. We now live in a world where people pitch tantrums about paying $10 for an app, and expect perpetual upgrades for that price! So simultaneously expectations have skyrocketed and prices have plummeted. Part of the problem is, unlike say Pinboard, an email client d…

I remember paying for The Bat! and loving it.

Pegasus mail was pretty good, even if a bit enterprisy. I just searched and wow... it's still being developed! The website even still lists the msdos version. http://www.pmail.com/

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Post by brongondwana »

darkr wrote: post #270
ash wrote: post #218

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There's JMAP protocol (from fastmail.com): http://jmap.io/

I really hope this protocol takes off and gains widespread adoption.

Me too :) Hoping to announce a bunch more support in the Cyrus IMAP server very soon!

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Post by mynameisvlad »

Lazare wrote: post #333
cwe wrote: post #309

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Outlook. Seriously. It supports multiple accounts I believe (I only use my work exchange account so not positive), and it has scheduling of messages. The scheduling hasn't synced very well to the desktop version in my experience, but a lot of people have called it the best gmail client on iOS.

Well, I guess it's worth a shot. Although my primary OS for dealing with email is OS X and I see the OS X app is $130? Acceptable for a good Mailbox replacement, but a bit pricy for a gamble. :( And "The scheduling hasn't synced very well to the desktop version in my experience" worries me a lot.

He means the Outlook iOS/Android app, which was a 3rd party app Microsoft bought (Accompli) and further upgraded by the people at Sunrise Calendar (also bought out) to make the app that it is today. Outlook for OSX, though, is still the classic Microsoft Office for OSX app, so it doesn't have any of those upgrades. The iOS app is my daily driver, and it works splendidly.

Re: Dropbox closing Carousel and Mailbox

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Post by mynameisvlad »

robwilliams wrote: post #226
colmvp wrote: post #11

Mailbox and Sunrise, two productivity apps that I liked, got acquired (Dropbox 2013, Microsoft 2015), and discontinued in 2015.

Wasn't Sunrise renamed Outlook on iOS? I have Outlook on my iPhone and it looks the same as the screenshot in the below discontinuation announcement...

Accompli was renamed Outlook and then functionality from Sunrise was added in recently when they announced the sunset.

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Post by s73v3r »

joering2 wrote: post #171
exelius wrote: post #113

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No; but often the server components are heavily tied to some other proprietary libraries that they're not ready to open source. They could remove all proprietary code from their codebase, but that costs money - likely more than they were willing to spend on this product. Unless open source is part of your marketing strategy (which means the effort would have a budget), it's really difficult to open source an existing…

That's a speculation on your part.. and PR spin-off on theirs. Nobody asked them to support it, or whatever. Just dump the damn thing online so others can pick up and continue to "help fight your inbox to zero". Clearly their intention here was profits and since they didn't see any - they kill it off. They won't do it so nobody else should try to safe email either. I wanted to get my company (over 3,000 users) off Dr…

"That's a speculation on your part"

Whereas your post is speculation on yours.

"Nobody asked them to support it"

At the same time, if they do open source it, people are going to see that it was once Dropbox, and any issues they see with it are going to be seen as the fault of Dropbox.

"Just dump the damn thing online"

Far more work than it sounds like.

"Clearly their intention here was profits"

They are a company with bills to pay and engineers to pay, right?

"They won't do it so nobody else should try to safe email either."

I don't see them going around and killing other people's email clients.

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Post by Radiant »

smackfu wrote: post #253
rifung wrote: post #98

Can anyone explain to me, someone who's more than happy with GMail, what these apps offer that aren't being offered by Google/Microsoft? It seems like Mailbox had a loyal following but I guess my email use is just not sophisticated enough to understand.

It's related to a productivity strategy called "inbox zero" where you immediately deal with every email in your inbox when you check your mail. "Deal with" might be to delete it if it's junk, respond immediately if you can, or defer it to later. A lot of these clients are aimed at making this process as fast and efficient as possible. So taking actions on an email are often just a swipe, and there are facilities to d…

So it's like Google's Inbox?

Re: Dropbox closing Carousel and Mailbox

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Post by tuananh »

azinman2 wrote: post #149
ckluis wrote: post #107

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I’d pay to have delete actually delete email completely (not just from my inbox, but from all as well).

@softawre: He's asking for it to delete on the receivers side too. I think certain enterprise-y email solutions have this, but there's no way to have that happen in the distributed email ecosystem unless all your messages were just links to a website that could delete the content centrally, or similarly, jpg's of rendered text that were somehow forced to be remotely fetched each time.

in order to do that, you can send an unique link as content so you can have total control over what you sent. doubt that many would click but i couldn't think of any other way.

other than that, i don't think receivers like the idea that others can control what's in their inbox.

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