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Re: Schwarzenegger: I don’t give a damn if we agree about climate change

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If I believe your number:

> First - do you believe it is acceptable that 7 million people die every year from pollution?

Answer this, how many of that 7 million year over year die from carbon dioxide?

This is the major issue with deniers. Carbon dioxide != pollution.

Edit:

I don't know anyone not in favor of clean energy. I know plenty who warn of government overreaching using climate change scare tactics.

You want to take a stance on pollution, then do that. Don't rant about climate change deniers.

Re: Schwarzenegger: I don’t give a damn if we agree about climate change

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Regarding the third question, it's a nice analogy there but is he suggesting that electric power is predominantly clean?

Across the US, 37.4% of our electric power comes from coal. I don't want to detract from the overall message because it is clear and accurate but I think it's important to think about how electric power is currently generated.

Coal statistic pulled from: http://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2015-10/documents/...

Re: Schwarzenegger: I don’t give a damn if we agree about climate change

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Regarding the third question, it's a nice analogy there but is he suggesting that electric power is predominantly clean? Across the US, 37.4% of our electric power comes from coal. I don't want to detract from the overall message because it is clear and accurate but I think it's important to think about how electric power is currently generated. Coal statistic pulled from: http://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/20…

In the first and second question he addresses pollution and coal. I think it's safe to assume he means an electric car powered by renewable energy.

Re: Schwarzenegger: I don’t give a damn if we agree about climate change

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If I believe your number: > First - do you believe it is acceptable that 7 million people die every year from pollution? Answer this, how many of that 7 million year over year die from carbon dioxide? This is the major issue with deniers. Carbon dioxide != pollution. Edit: I don't know anyone not in favor of clean energy. I know plenty who warn of government overreaching using climate change scare tactics. You want t…

So you are ok with 1* million(x) CO2 pollution deaths per year and 6 million(y) other pollution death per year?

*- Move the x as you want, and set y as (7 - x) million.

Re: Schwarzenegger: I don’t give a damn if we agree about climate change

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Regarding the third question, it's a nice analogy there but is he suggesting that electric power is predominantly clean? Across the US, 37.4% of our electric power comes from coal. I don't want to detract from the overall message because it is clear and accurate but I think it's important to think about how electric power is currently generated. Coal statistic pulled from: http://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/20…

Coal as a source of our electric power has plummeted in a decade, being taken up mostly by natural gas (but also in small part by solar/wind). Additionally, there is no change needed for an end consumer if the power they use is switched to a different source, whereas to switch a fuel for cars means switching cars. The drive to get people on electric cars means that switching everything off of fossil fuels is a matter of switching the power plants (which we've seen is something that can be done quickly as with coal->natural gas).
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