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Re: Software Eats Software Development as Andreessen Invests $10M in App Outsourcer

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“He who forgets the past is doomed to repeat it.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-aided_software_engine...

Maybe it IS different this time around. I can see for very simple apps this might be possible. But one of the first questions that often gets asked on projects that I am on is "Is this even possible?"

Re: Software Eats Software Development as Andreessen Invests $10M in App Outsourcer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

More automation more of the time! The world needs to focus on how we collectively become more efficient while working less / relaxing more. Having said that, I think automation of software development has a long way to go before it's particularly effective. Though it's certainly going to be an interesting space to watch. It's somehow weird to imagine a future in which we disrupt ourselves.

> The world needs to focus on how we collectively become more efficient while working less / relaxing more. The world doesn't reward working less. More automation might lead to lower average work hours, but the reduction comes from people losing their jobs and not finding new ones. So, yes, you get to work less, but you almost might go bankrupt, lose your house and car, and be reliant on government welfare, if you're…

Need to change the reward structures.

I don't think Max Weber ever fathomed a world where human labor was unnecessary and inefficient.

Work is not rewarding if you can never have it.

Still waiting for the new treatise.

Re: Software Eats Software Development as Andreessen Invests $10M in App Outsourcer

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From a pure economic division-of-labor standpoint it makes sense. However I thought the modern business approach was to move away from strictly defined boxes of job roles and have everyone involved with everything (with some fuzzy focus on a particular role). With the hope that some cross pollination of ideas results in some synergistic result where the sum is greater than the individual parts. However the upshot of…

> What we need now is a simple program that takes normal human text and outputs a program. Input "write me a program that adds the numbers 1 to 100" and you would get a program that did that. The problem is normal human text is ambiguous and flawed. Case in point: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=write+me+a+program+that... Correct, but probably not quite what you intended.

Yeah, but when the latency from description input to program output is in seconds, then you could iterate on the description quite fast. It would be like programming, except you don't need to know any algorithms and all the plumbing takes care of itself.

Re: Software Eats Software Development as Andreessen Invests $10M in App Outsourcer

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“He who forgets the past is doomed to repeat it.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-aided_software_engine... Maybe it IS different this time around. I can see for very simple apps this might be possible. But one of the first questions that often gets asked on projects that I am on is "Is this even possible?"

Technology is filled with plenty of idea that have their second comings: consumer tablets, grocery delivery, etc.

Re: Software Eats Software Development as Andreessen Invests $10M in App Outsourcer

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post #58
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More automation more of the time! The world needs to focus on how we collectively become more efficient while working less / relaxing more. Having said that, I think automation of software development has a long way to go before it's particularly effective. Though it's certainly going to be an interesting space to watch. It's somehow weird to imagine a future in which we disrupt ourselves.

> The world needs to focus on how we collectively become more efficient while working less / relaxing more. The world doesn't reward working less. More automation might lead to lower average work hours, but the reduction comes from people losing their jobs and not finding new ones. So, yes, you get to work less, but you almost might go bankrupt, lose your house and car, and be reliant on government welfare, if you're…

I think he was saying that automating all the things is good, but we need to rethink the economic system that we currently have. Imagine the logical extreme of our current trajectory: a world in which robots/computers do everything that humans currently do. 100% automation, 0% employment.

This should be a good thing, giving humans unprecedented leisure time and producing a huge cultural boom. The problem is that in the current economic system 0% employment means the world would be impoverished, except for the few that owned the robot/computer production systems.

Re: Software Eats Software Development as Andreessen Invests $10M in App Outsourcer

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"Within two weeks of its launch in late July, Gigster already had $1 million in sales booked." Can someone walk me through how this is possible? As in, what does a company like Gigster focus on to reach sales so quickly?

I'd double check what it is meant by "sales booked": is it any different to "sales executed"? If the product they are selling is paid in, say, instalments in the future, or if there is any contingency on the payments, there is a way to inflate your sales numbers by playing with your payment projections and assumptions.

"booked" means you sold something but haven't produced or delivered it yet.

but in consulting/services you can't realize sales as "real" revenue until you actually delivered the services.

Re: Software Eats Software Development as Andreessen Invests $10M in App Outsourcer

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I'm afraid this is a glimpse into the not so distant future where software developers are next in line after taxi and truck drivers - uncertain if their skills will be required in a decade from now. That is compound by the millions of youngsters who grew up with computers, have unlimited access to unlimited teaching materials and are entering the workforce each year.. The demand for software may be growing (although…

I'm guessing the "AI" is mostly just marketing bs. They're just trying a different consultancy model and have been given 10 mill.

Re: Software Eats Software Development as Andreessen Invests $10M in App Outsourcer

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“He who forgets the past is doomed to repeat it.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-aided_software_engine... Maybe it IS different this time around. I can see for very simple apps this might be possible. But one of the first questions that often gets asked on projects that I am on is "Is this even possible?"

A compiler is a CASE tool. Same thing for UML tools (some are pretty good)
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