Microsoft Edge's JavaScript engine to go open-source • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft Edge's JavaScript engine to go open-source

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Post by Can_Not » Sat, Dec 05, 2015, 8:44 PM UTC

aravindet wrote: post #79

hackerboos wrote: post #71

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Not Node.js per se but a separate project that ran on the Chkara core and worked hard for cross-compatibility would be more than welcome.

A node.js fork where you can optionally swap out v8 for chakra: already baked by none other than microsoft. They hope to merge it back into upstream, that seems possible given the recent history of the Node.js project. Of course, it is very very unlikely that npm modules with native code work in Node.js/Chakra just yet.

> Of course, it is very very unlikely that npm modules with native code work in Node.js/Chakra just yet.

I would hope they follow the same path as the jxcore+SpiderMonkey team so I don't have to worry about which engine my npm modules support.

Re: Microsoft Edge's JavaScript engine to go open-source

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Post by nashashmi » Sat, Dec 05, 2015, 8:48 PM UTC

BatFastard wrote: post #126

jayflux wrote: post #88

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This is very true. Microsoft are at their best when they're the underdog

Everyone is at their best when they are the underdog from my experience.

Only the underdogs that make the news ... make news. Everyone else you never hear about.

Re: Microsoft Edge's JavaScript engine to go open-source

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Post by st3fan » Sat, Dec 05, 2015, 8:56 PM UTC

saurik wrote: post #180

coldtea wrote: post #175

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It's obviously the primary product to ANY browser development team. The question is if its also the primary product of the COMPANY the development team belongs.

What is actually relevant here is whether the percentage that Google considers Chrome to be valuable to their company times the resources of the company is competitive against the resources Mozilla has (times the percentage that Mozilla considers the browser their focus, as they clearly spend a lot of money on side projects people sometimes seem to enjoy, such as Persona). Mozilla is small enough (at least in compari…

And not all of us at Mozilla actually work on Firefox. I don't know the number but we work on a lot of different things.

Re: Microsoft Edge's JavaScript engine to go open-source

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Post by jsprogrammer » Sat, Dec 05, 2015, 8:59 PM UTC

roddux wrote: post #19

Wait, Edge does better on ES6 coverage than both Chrome and Firefox? Microsoft have seriously stepped up their game, especially seeing as it's now neck and neck for performance with Chrome: http://venturebeat.com/2015/09/10/browser-benchmark-battle-s...

Microsoft always steps up its game. It usually just sits around for a while before doing it. (presumably coding)

Re: Microsoft Edge's JavaScript engine to go open-source

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Dec 05, 2015, 9:02 PM UTC

frik wrote: post #45

adrianlmm wrote: post #41

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>and won't work with Chkara Is your lost.

I meant many npm modules ;) Not my code. So it would be your problem too.

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Re: Microsoft Edge's JavaScript engine to go open-source

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Post by ghrifter » Sat, Dec 05, 2015, 9:02 PM UTC

IE 11 and Edge are great.

It's still fun to hear the circlejerk from "tech" friends/people about how IE is slow, bad, etc compared to Chrome or Firefox.

Yeah, back in the day it was, but in the past few years IE has been great.

Re: Microsoft Edge's JavaScript engine to go open-source

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Post by krisdol » Sat, Dec 05, 2015, 9:03 PM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #176

nocman wrote: post #148

"I literally blown away by their name". ^^ I'm so sorry to hear about your accident. I hope your injuries were not serious! :-D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jh4Mpgbi4A

Here, meet a dictionary of the english language: Literary [lemma 2]: in effect, virtually It's a use that predates Shakespeare.

It's a term that has two accepted meanings, the other meaning being the total opposite of the intended, making it a meaningless "flavor" word.

Leave it out of phrases from now on, and the phrase will not lose any meaning or clarity.

Re: Microsoft Edge's JavaScript engine to go open-source

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Dec 05, 2015, 9:04 PM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #176

nocman wrote: post #148

"I literally blown away by their name". ^^ I'm so sorry to hear about your accident. I hope your injuries were not serious! :-D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jh4Mpgbi4A

Here, meet a dictionary of the english language: Literary [lemma 2]: in effect, virtually It's a use that predates Shakespeare.

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Re: Microsoft Edge's JavaScript engine to go open-source

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Post by node_uzer » Sat, Dec 05, 2015, 9:12 PM UTC

frik wrote: post #42

ameen wrote: post #18

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I think theoretically Node.js could work without V8, and guess some of MS's work for IoT was indeed that (swapping V8 for Chakra).

There used to be an Mozilla spidermonley based node.js too, though it isn't maintained atm. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2469786 https://github.com/zpao/spidernode

There is an actively maintained Spidermonkey port of Node.js called jxcore. It also supports an older version of V8 from the 0.10 branch.

https://github.com/jxcore/jxcore

Re: Microsoft Edge's JavaScript engine to go open-source

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Post by zer0defex » Sat, Dec 05, 2015, 9:16 PM UTC

vonklaus wrote: post #64

I find myself hoping Microsoft makes a comeback and they are really doing a lot to win developers which I think is the right move. Obviously, they are a huge platform and developers inherently will be using it but they have taken a lot of great steps like open sourcing this engine as well as other projects. The Code editor they released is built on Atom Electron and seems more performant than Atom in the few experien…

Ditto - and I agree, underdog doesn't quite feel like the right word. It's more like yesterday's champion coming out of retirement to deliver some good old-fashioned ego checks on today's cocky up-and-comers. Either way, it's fun to watch.