Does anyone have a good resource for learning to design PCBs? I have a breadboard with some sensors that I want to make a PCB out of, just so the wires are tidy, but I watched an Eagle tutorial and it looked like there are tens of easy to make mistakes that will ruin your board. I'm not sure if that's true, but if it is, does anyone know of a resource that will at least teach me how to make this simple PCB avoiding t…
KiCad 4.0.0 is Out
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#22This flowchart captures the KiCAD experience pretty well (though the "PCB Done" step is decidedly more time consuming than its symbol suggests):http://docs.kicad-pcb.org/en/getting_started_in_kicad.html#k...
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Favorably. Obviously, it's free and open source, with no board size / layer limitations. On the other hand, Eagle is still much more widely used in the DIY community, and most my-first-PCB-like tutorials are Eagle-based. Kicad has for years suffered from the binary release being really, really outdated. Kicad development feels pretty fast-paced. It has most or all of Eagles features, and some nice advanced features E…
The hobbyist community has been switching over to KiCAD, to the point where I believe KiCAD has a significant majority over Eagle in OSHPark orders. A lot of people switched with the new Eagle licensing model, which they put on hold due to backlash.
We're also working on being able to take .kicad_pcb files directly, in the same way we take Eagle .brd files now. In the meantime, I wrote up a page with some KiCad screenshots and instructions for how to generate the gerbers and drill files we need. [1]
The major issues we see can be solved by checking the Protel naming format option so we can detect layers correctly, and by putting the board outline by itself on the Edge Cuts layer.
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#24How does KiCad compare to Eagle?
Having just switched from EAGLE to KiCad I think I'm qualified to offer an answer to that question. The short answer: it is better. If you are considering switching, do not wait, just switch. I should have done this sooner. The longer answer: Both tools have drawbacks and the user interface is bizarre in many ways in both of them. That said, KiCad at least is being regularly improved. I got tired of waiting for EAGLE…
The only thing I'd add is that anybody who's thinking of switching should treat it like picking up a new, very different programming language. It took me three weeks with several boards and a video tutorial series to finally get comfortable that I can use the tool without constantly looking up hotkeys and documentation (which is really good).
The thing I recommend is to never assume that the way KiCad is doing something is the only way, and to Google aggressively. A good example is the 'Move' tool vs the 'Grab' tool. I watched a guy nearly swear off KiCad because he only used Move and never Grab, so he was moving wire segments individually. If he'd read the documentation or searched for the answer, it would have been there. These tools are not particularly intuitive.
The best part of taking some dedicated time is that now I have 2-layer and 4-layer templates with my design rules, custom project settings, and a bunch of custom hotkeys. It makes all the difference.
Re: KiCad 4.0.0 is Out
#25Does anyone have a good resource for learning to design PCBs? I have a breadboard with some sensors that I want to make a PCB out of, just so the wires are tidy, but I watched an Eagle tutorial and it looked like there are tens of easy to make mistakes that will ruin your board. I'm not sure if that's true, but if it is, does anyone know of a resource that will at least teach me how to make this simple PCB avoiding t…
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#26I've designed a dozen or so boards using KiCAD, some in commercial production. You definitely have to get into its way of thinking, but once you do KiCAD works very well (as long as you only need design-rule checking and not more complex simulation). Using keyboard shortcuts allows you to work quickly once you learn what they are. I haven't tried the new version, but from the previous stable release the feedback I ha…
Re: KiCad 4.0.0 is Out
#27I've designed a dozen or so boards using KiCAD, some in commercial production. You definitely have to get into its way of thinking, but once you do KiCAD works very well (as long as you only need design-rule checking and not more complex simulation). Using keyboard shortcuts allows you to work quickly once you learn what they are. I haven't tried the new version, but from the previous stable release the feedback I ha…
KiCost is one and bomtool (https://github.com/cpavlina/bomtool) is another.
bomtool has more of what you are looking for, where for passives you can specify a value, tolerance, package, etc it will just search digikey and pick a component that works.
The other things you mentioned I 100% agree with. more advanced DRC is something that a lot of people ask for. Not sure it will happen any time soon though.
Re: KiCad 4.0.0 is Out
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
The hobbyist community has been switching over to KiCAD, to the point where I believe KiCAD has a significant majority over Eagle in OSHPark orders. A lot of people switched with the new Eagle licensing model, which they put on hold due to backlash.
I'm on support at OSH Park and we're still seeing a sizable majority of Eagle boards, but KiCad is definitely on the rise. I've got the impression that a lot of folks have been turned off by having to get the daily builds, so I'm incredibly excited to see the stable release. I'm expecting we'll see KiCad come to parity with Eagle over the next year or two. We're also working on being able to take .kicad_pcb files dir…
I wish I could upvote your post more for the middle paragraph. Direct kicad_pcb input in to OSH Park will be fantastic!
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#29Does anyone have a good resource for learning to design PCBs? I have a breadboard with some sensors that I want to make a PCB out of, just so the wires are tidy, but I watched an Eagle tutorial and it looked like there are tens of easy to make mistakes that will ruin your board. I'm not sure if that's true, but if it is, does anyone know of a resource that will at least teach me how to make this simple PCB avoiding t…
Has anyone here done Chris Gammell's Context Electronics? https://contextualelectronics.com/
Edit: Also, supporting any of his efforts makes you feel good, considering all he has contributed to the EE hobbyist community (contextualelectronics.com, kicad.info, the Amp Hour podcast, etc.). He and Dave Jones (EEVBlog) are the superstars of the hobbyist community.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Favorably. Obviously, it's free and open source, with no board size / layer limitations. On the other hand, Eagle is still much more widely used in the DIY community, and most my-first-PCB-like tutorials are Eagle-based. Kicad has for years suffered from the binary release being really, really outdated. Kicad development feels pretty fast-paced. It has most or all of Eagles features, and some nice advanced features E…
Can you comment on the situation with component libraries for kicad? How does it compare to Eagle? I've recently tried Fritzing but keep finding that some components aren't available. Defining my own is kind of tedious.
There are quite a handful of component libraries, but you'll probably have to do a bit of digging.