Response to EFF complaint about student data privacy
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Response to EFF complaint about student data privacy
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#3> There are no ads in these Core Services, and student data in these services is not used for advertising purposes.
This isn't in the original EFF complaint, EFF specifically says (at least in the press release [1]) that Google doesn't advertise:
EFF:
>This allows Google to track, store on its servers, and data mine for non-advertising purposes
Google then says:
>In addition, our systems compile data aggregated from millions of users of Chrome Sync and, after completely removing information about individual users, we use this data to holistically improve the services we provide. For example if data shows that millions of people are visiting a webpage that is broken, that site would be moved lower in the search results. This is not connected to any specific person nor is it used to analyze student behaviors.
Which is exactly what the EFF's complaint is about!
EFF:
>Google’s practices fly in the face of commitments made when it signed the Student Privacy Pledge, a legally enforceable document whereby companies promise to refrain from collecting, using, or sharing students’ personal information except when needed for legitimate educational purposes or if parents provide permission.
so imho Google just confirms what the EFF said
[1] https://www.eff.org/press/releases/google-deceptively-tracks...
Re: Response to EFF complaint about student data privacy
#4Basically, it boils down to:
- Google is violating the student privacy pledge by logging non-educational material a student user sees, by having sync turned on by default, and by allowing administrators to turn on sync if it is off
- Student Privacy Pledge is enforcable by the FTC due to previous precedent
- EFF wants FTC to open an investigation into Google's practices, and, if found in violation, to stop the offending practices and delete already-collected personal data.
It seems fairly straghtforward to me.
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#5Some examples:
- Google Hangouts is one of the covered apps. But to be actually useful (e.g. if you want to share images), you had to turn on Google+. Images end up in Google+ photo albums, which are not covered by the Google Apps agreement and the data can be mined for advertising purposes.
- Google Drive is also covered, which means that data on Drive is not mined for ads. However, in a realistic work environment, you have to share files outside your organisation. If you share a file and someone ends up opening it on a non-Apps Google account, your document has been leaked to an ad-mined Drive account.
- When Google Photos was introduced, suddenly all my Drive photos were there as well. Google Photos is not covered, which means that the photos can be mined for ads. Luckily, this problem seems to have been resolved.
- Google Mail is covered by the terms of apps. But if I go to Google Plus, people I communicated with via e-mail are suggested as circle additions. Since Google Plus is not covered by the Apps terms, why does data from e-mail end up there?
My impression is that (perhaps driven by the consumer apps) data isolation is a real problem within Google and there is a certain amount of data shared between apps that are covered by the Google Apps terms and those that aren't. This seriously undermines my trust in Google Apps and its suitability for business/education.
Of course, I could switch off every Google service in Apps outside what is covered. But then you need two Google accounts, which is really inconvenient.
Re: Response to EFF complaint about student data privacy
#6(i) Pages like https://fpf.org/issues/ad-tracking/ don't present a critical and balanced view on ad tracking but put forward the view of ad companies.
(ii) A random quote from the page on big data: "In Big Data: Catalyst for a Privacy Change, Joseph Jerome discusses the rise of big data and the role of privacy in both the Fourth Amendment and consumer contexts, and argues that the future of privacy will have the be built upon a foundation of trust." The future of privacy needs to be built on a foundation of trust? Well, you can state that, but it indicates that you're not an independent thinktank but try to advance policies that are beneficial to your supporters
(iii) Supporters (https://fpf.org/about/supporters/) all big shots, but also including Facebook, ComScore, ad companies and so on.
So take it with a grain of salt that the Forum for the Future of Privacy states that Google has done nothing wrong.
Re: Response to EFF complaint about student data privacy
#7Google: > There are no ads in these Core Services, and student data in these services is not used for advertising purposes. This isn't in the original EFF complaint, EFF specifically says (at least in the press release [1]) that Google doesn't advertise: EFF: >This allows Google to track, store on its servers, and data mine for non-advertising purposes Google then says: >In addition, our systems compile data aggregat…
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#9When Google starts to state that the Future of Privacy Forum (FPF) agrees with their policies, you know that something's amiss. Looking at fpf.org, they present themselves as a Thinktank, but it's probably more honest to describe them as industry lobbyists. (i) Pages like https://fpf.org/issues/ad-tracking/ don't present a critical and balanced view on ad tracking but put forward the view of ad companies. (ii) A rand…
https://fpf.org/about/our-mission/
Their "About Us and "Mission" pages are identical, and are full of glowing talk about convening a discussion that "seeks to advance responsible data practices", and doesn't say anything about privacy. This smells strongly of a corporate/lobbyist PR front.
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#10I have several classes that require the use of proprietary software such as Google classroom, Microsoft silver light, and Adobe flash. On top of that I cannot even remember the last time I was given a document that wasn't a .docx.
It would be one thing if these tools were optional, but they are strictly required and students' grades do suffer if they choose to opt out of using them. In previous years I simply followed along in my windows VM, but after getting accepted to the university of my choice I've had enough. I have alerted all of my teachers I will not be using Google classroom, or complete any assignment that requires the use of flash, silver light, or any other proprietary software. Has my grade suffered? Sure, but now that I am securely in the school of my choice I could not care less.