Somebody compare and contrast swift for backend development with golang, node, etc. Google is giving me nothing useful.
Swift is Open Source
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Re: Swift is Open Source
#82This is good news (hoping the github link etc will start working in a day or two)! One side effect of swift being open sourced is that more developers will start looking at it for server side development. However, I personally think that Swift will continue to have strong reliance on Apple (esp considering that most external Swift developers will come from iOS development). So, till I see Apple showing interest in Sw…
esp considering that most external Swift developers will come from iOS development I am wondering about this. To me, it seems that there is still space for a modern, pragmatic language that compiles to native code. Coming from C and C++, I have been using Go recently for applications where garbage collection and some performance loss due to a relatively weak compiler is acceptable. However, I still find the lack of p…
I think Swift is a viable competitor for C++ and Nim.
D won't be fully a player in that space until the GC is fully optional - meaning no library code causes the GC to run unexpectedly.
I'm excited about Swift for desktop/simulation/gaming/embedded development. I'm sure there'll be a Windows port in the near term as well.
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#83It's great to see them follow through with this. I remember when Steve Jobs went on stage and said that FaceTime would be an open standard. Haven't seen that happen yet.
Re FaceTime, I recently read an unsubstantiated but plausible comment that they'd run into patent issues that caused a redesign that caused issues open sourcing it.
Re: Swift is Open Source
#84A Golang killer?
No.
Re: Swift is Open Source
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
esp considering that most external Swift developers will come from iOS development I am wondering about this. To me, it seems that there is still space for a modern, pragmatic language that compiles to native code. Coming from C and C++, I have been using Go recently for applications where garbage collection and some performance loss due to a relatively weak compiler is acceptable. However, I still find the lack of p…
I have worked extensively with both Swift and Go. The currently available Swift implementation in Xcode is fairly closely tied to Cocoa (and hence OS X); I think this would be a serious barrier to generic server-side usage of Swift, so I'm curious to see if they have done anything about that (and what). Otherwise, it's a fairly decent language. It doesn't have Go's concurrency baked in to the language, but on OS X yo…
It's not ready for production in this release according to the site but libdispatch and Foundation are both being ported which should speed up server side development on Linux.
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#86Such good news. I've bet my career on Scala, but Swift is sufficiently similar in style that it will be an easy transition.
A language to write native (not VM-based) apps for the desktop, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, CarPlay and Apple TV is becoming very compelling indeed.
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#87It's great to see them follow through with this. I remember when Steve Jobs went on stage and said that FaceTime would be an open standard. Haven't seen that happen yet.
According to this reddit thread[1] they were sued for patent infringement[2]
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1xuzif/what_ever_hap...
Re: Swift is Open Source
#88It's great to see them follow through with this. I remember when Steve Jobs went on stage and said that FaceTime would be an open standard. Haven't seen that happen yet.
> I remember when Steve Jobs went on stage and said that FaceTime would be an open standard. Haven't seen that happen yet.
FaceTime has been the subject of multiple patent lawsuits, which is what has prevented it from being opened.
See: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-20236114 and http://www.techzone360.com/topics/techzone/articles/2014/09/...
Re: Swift is Open Source
#89It's great to see them follow through with this. I remember when Steve Jobs went on stage and said that FaceTime would be an open standard. Haven't seen that happen yet.
Re FaceTime, I recently read an unsubstantiated but plausible comment that they'd run into patent issues that caused a redesign that caused issues open sourcing it.
They were definitely sued very heavily over face times architecture.