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Re: Yahoo CAPTCHA Cracked.

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A long time ago I decided, that if I were to ever have a captcha system, it wouldn't use ones of that style, which are getting so.. randomized these days, it's hard for a human to read. Frankly, I think knowledge or logic based captchas are the way to go. "Todd is three times as old as Jane is. When Jane was ten years younger, Todd was five times as old as Jane is. How old is Todd?" for example. Sure, takes longer to…

I've always thought that for blog comments, the captcha should actually take the form of a few short SAT-style questions which would test reading comprehension. E.g. "Which one of the following is not one of the points the author is trying to make" "Which of the following best describes the authors' opinion of Java?" "What did the author cite as his source for his labor statistics?"

Not only do you cut down on spam, but respondents would have actually READ the article.

That's convergence if I've ever seen it!

Re: Yahoo CAPTCHA Cracked.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I checked on the "obviously, I'm not as qualified as you in this sense" by looking at the user info, and I remembered that "Ideas to monetize new artifical intelligence" thread... so Marcus, sorry if it's offtopic, but how did you solve that problem? Are you doing captchas maybe? :)

Doing CAD - Computer Assisted Diagnosis - working on improving early cancer detection in Mammography.

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Re: Yahoo CAPTCHA Cracked.

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I'm surprised the Russian hackers gave away their implementation for free. I suspect it was an unintentional leak.

Anyone else remember that Chinese website that was selling captcha hacks for 20 different types of captchas?

Re: Yahoo CAPTCHA Cracked.

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A long time ago I decided, that if I were to ever have a captcha system, it wouldn't use ones of that style, which are getting so.. randomized these days, it's hard for a human to read. Frankly, I think knowledge or logic based captchas are the way to go. "Todd is three times as old as Jane is. When Jane was ten years younger, Todd was five times as old as Jane is. How old is Todd?" for example. Sure, takes longer to…

You better have a really good porn site if you expect me to jump through that kind of holes to use it. Oh and Todd is 60.

"Todd was five times as old as Jane is."

I believe that that semantic flaw sadly classes Todd out of existence by 15 years (that is, t = -15).

Re: Yahoo CAPTCHA Cracked.

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A CAPTCHA method that just came into my head at this moment, and thus is completely unfounded and horrible: "Please compose a haiku on the topic of 'togetherness' [or something equally vague]. Your work will then be passed through a Bayesian filter specifically trained on that topic."

Re: Yahoo CAPTCHA Cracked.

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A long time ago I decided, that if I were to ever have a captcha system, it wouldn't use ones of that style, which are getting so.. randomized these days, it's hard for a human to read. Frankly, I think knowledge or logic based captchas are the way to go. "Todd is three times as old as Jane is. When Jane was ten years younger, Todd was five times as old as Jane is. How old is Todd?" for example. Sure, takes longer to…

I'd take you on that bet. Write the system and I'll write the solver. I drink Guinness :) A better system would be to ask the user to identify the gender of a person based on an image to tell whether the picture is of a dog or of a cat and so on, these tasks are trivial for a person and very very hard for a program.

For photograph based captchas,the diversity will be too low and will be uneconomical to implement on a large scale.

How about animated gifs instead of static images as captchas?

Re: Yahoo CAPTCHA Cracked.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I checked on the "obviously, I'm not as qualified as you in this sense" by looking at the user info, and I remembered that "Ideas to monetize new artifical intelligence" thread... so Marcus, sorry if it's offtopic, but how did you solve that problem? Are you doing captchas maybe? :)

Doing CAD - Computer Assisted Diagnosis - working on improving early cancer detection in Mammography.

In a way I understand trying to apply the algorithm manually for each client is wasteful, negotiation with each client is tiring especially when its with a 7B company.

I'm thinking about using the idea I got of building a web-service around it, and letting people find their own uses for it.

Considering applying to YC with the idea.

Re: Yahoo CAPTCHA Cracked.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doing CAD - Computer Assisted Diagnosis - working on improving early cancer detection in Mammography.

In a way I understand trying to apply the algorithm manually for each client is wasteful, negotiation with each client is tiring especially when its with a 7B company. I'm thinking about using the idea I got of building a web-service around it, and letting people find their own uses for it. Considering applying to YC with the idea.

Thanks a lot for your reply and details! I was very interested on it.

Re: Yahoo CAPTCHA Cracked.

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I really like to use reCpatcha. Sure it's not the most secure, but it's for a good cause, and it keeps out the basic bots. For anyone who doesn't know what recaptcha is: http://recaptcha.net/

I wrote about reCaptcha before and the big problem with it is that it can be hard. And by hard I mean that the majority of people can't solve it. If you have a big site and you have a spam issue, then by all means, use it. But if you're a small site that's trying to grow and a site that considers every potential user to be precious, stay away from it because the last thing you want is to frustrate people! Since you w…

I have to agree with you on that. I only use the captcha when I absolutely need to. What I've found to work well is have the mail go through a good spam filter before you get it.
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