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Google Cloud Vision API changes the way applications understand images

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Re: Google Cloud Vision API changes the way applications understand images

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Post by jjackson21 »

yid wrote: post #32
TeMPOraL wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They won't be the only ones with this tech forever. In so much as a solution depends on "cleverness" rather than raw computing power, it'll have room for competition. They put a lot of effort figuring out what works and what doesn't but now that they have a product, the lesson is out and will be recreated by others. Google is leading, but they have also shown the direction to go and provided something to benchmark ag…

> In so much as a solution depends on "cleverness" rather than raw computing power, it'll have room for competition. Unfortunately, it's looking more and more like it's going to be a competition on training data and raw computational power, and it's hard to compete with Google's corpora from the web, gmail, captchas, maps, etc. -- not to mention Google's tremendous number crunching resources.

What other data sets exist that would be on par with Google's web/gmail/maps/etc. data sets for training models? Is there a chance Google would every make a version of their data sets available to the public?

Re: Google Cloud Vision API changes the way applications understand images

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Post by lacker »

akshayB wrote: post #16
nicklo wrote: post #5

I wonder what this means for computer vision startups like http://clarifai.com ? Its hard to compete with Google on a task like image classification when Google has immense computational resources, tons of data, and hoards of top researchers.

Forget new services, even a small change in their existing products by Google can destroy lot of companies. Everyone remembers how they ruined email marketing by caching gmail images.

There are still plenty of successful email marketing companies.

Re: Google Cloud Vision API changes the way applications understand images

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Post by davidbarker »

crb wrote: post #46
davidbarker wrote: post #40

I've been going round in circles for the last 15 minutes, trying to sign up for access. I've tried every ID I can find in my account for the "Google Cloud Platform user account ID", but none seem to be working, and it won't allow me to submit the form without a valid ID. Is anyone else having the same issue/know where I can find this ID?

As it's for whitelisting, it is generally an e-mail address - the ID you are logged into Google with when accessing the Cloud console. If that doesn't work for you, let me know - I work on GCP and I can ping the people who can fix it.

It worked — thanks!

Re: Google Cloud Vision API changes the way applications understand images

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Post by davidbarker »

sp3n wrote: post #44
davidbarker wrote: post #40

I've been going round in circles for the last 15 minutes, trying to sign up for access. I've tried every ID I can find in my account for the "Google Cloud Platform user account ID", but none seem to be working, and it won't allow me to submit the form without a valid ID. Is anyone else having the same issue/know where I can find this ID?

i was confused by this too, i have never seen a 'google cloud platform user account id' before and i have been using app engine for years - so i just used the email address tied to my app engine account, seemed to work just fine

Indeed, it does. Thanks.

Re: Google Cloud Vision API changes the way applications understand images

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Post by joefkelley »

I wonder if there is an API to train this on a custom dataset.

They have a few built-in models, but those seem pretty limiting in terms of uses cases. I can think of a lot more where you would want to be able to train on your own specialized images and labels.

Re: Google Cloud Vision API changes the way applications understand images

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Post by bpicolo »

gohrt wrote: post #43
akshayB wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forget new services, even a small change in their existing products by Google can destroy lot of companies. Everyone remembers how they ruined email marketing by caching gmail images.

caching images prevents knowing the open rate; it doesn't prevent knowing the response rate on click actions. If people are reading your emails but not clicking, how is that valuable?

one annoying as crap thing is that it prevents images from working against my dev vpn

Re: Google Cloud Vision API changes the way applications understand images

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Post by singhrac »

jjackson21 wrote: post #51
yid wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In so much as a solution depends on "cleverness" rather than raw computing power, it'll have room for competition. Unfortunately, it's looking more and more like it's going to be a competition on training data and raw computational power, and it's hard to compete with Google's corpora from the web, gmail, captchas, maps, etc. -- not to mention Google's tremendous number crunching resources.

What other data sets exist that would be on par with Google's web/gmail/maps/etc. data sets for training models? Is there a chance Google would every make a version of their data sets available to the public?

At least right now there aren't many other places that have as much data flowing through them, or at least as much almost unrestricted access to data (for example, Amazon has plenty of data but very little legal access).

And possibly, though for privacy reasons in a much more filtered down form (see the word2vec Google News dataset). I find it unlikely for private data though.

Re: Google Cloud Vision API changes the way applications understand images

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Post by nate_martin »

[deleted] wrote: post #59
nicklo wrote: post #5

I wonder what this means for computer vision startups like http://clarifai.com ? Its hard to compete with Google on a task like image classification when Google has immense computational resources, tons of data, and hoards of top researchers.

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You're betting on a a startup's product to stick around longer than a tech giant's?
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