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Well, in that case I'm just going to invent a TCP-over-cat-pictures VPN. Encode all the TCP packets in the subtle details of the fur and package everything up as innocent-looking HTTP GET requests. This realistically shouldn't be too hard to do with obfsproxy's already-built framework.
You're going to run out of cat pictures pretty quickly.
Kazakhstan to MitM all HTTPS traffic starting Jan 1
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#242Could this be used by the Kazakh government to sign malware/spying packages and install them on their citizens' machines? Sounds like a super easy way to open that backdoor. Or is this a different type of cert? I'm thinking along the lines of what Dell and Lenovo were yelled at for (although those were easy to rip off, but the government could possibly serve as the malicious actor here).
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#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Sure it will, just send another NSL to the blacklisting instance. Instances, plural, including both browsers and various cross-check mechanisms (pinning, certificate transparency, etc). Likely too many people required for operational security. Not saying it couldn't be done, but it certainly couldn't be done lightly or often, and even then it would produce significant risk of exposure. It certainly couldn't be effe…
warrant/subpoena != NSL
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#245Kazakh here. Fuck, what do we do? Any suggestions other than trying to raise awareness? To give some context, the reason why they are getting away with such brute methods is that the most people wouldn't understand the full implication. I would be surprised if this would prove difficult to enforce - the first thing an ordinary person would do when, say, Facebook wouldn't load is to call up the Kazakhtelecom's support…
Revolution or leaving the country are your only choices. There is no democracy so there is probably no way to resolve this grievance, and I doubt it would be anywhere near the top of list for most citizens.
You can speak english and probably have computer skills, so I hope it would be possible for you to get out.
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#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
Kazakhstan is not the US. We are highly unlikely to see a public uprising in Kazakhstan over this when the country has had the same president since 1991 and rubber-stamp parliament. Protests in 2011 were quelled by gunning down protestors (see below). Nazarbayev, re-elected in a barely contested election to a fifth term on Sunday, was born to a peasant family. He trained as an engineer before rising through the ranks…
There was no public uprising after Snowden in the US either ... Some will now say you can't compare this. They are right because what Kazakhstan is doing there looks amateurish.
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#247So use Linux and you will be fine?
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That would make people in the US feel better, but it wouldn't make any difference. If a country can force residents to install software or reconfigure their machines, there's nothing browser vendors can do to make those residents secure. Essentially, Kazakhstan owns (in both senses) the Internet-connected computers of all its residents, and it can do whatever it wants with them. It's also well within Kazakhstan's bud…
Can you name some examples of what they can do? Because other than release some sort of virus, which will be found in a matter of months, I don't think they can infect the entire country.
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#249Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Microsoft, Salesforce, Box, Dropbox, Twitter, etc. could have a very strong influence on changing this if they banded together to respond to this in some way. The government might be doing what they think is right, but public backlash can change policy almost overnight. We saw this in the US recently with SOPA/PIPA. The "Internet" response was unprecedented. The people of Kazakhstan can achie…
What should these companies responses be? And why should the kazach goverment care? They'd prefer if the poeple used russian (or kazach) copy cats like vkontakte anyway.
Re: Kazakhstan to MitM all HTTPS traffic starting Jan 1
#250Kazakh here. Fuck, what do we do? Any suggestions other than trying to raise awareness? To give some context, the reason why they are getting away with such brute methods is that the most people wouldn't understand the full implication. I would be surprised if this would prove difficult to enforce - the first thing an ordinary person would do when, say, Facebook wouldn't load is to call up the Kazakhtelecom's support…