The suits have been trying to ditch the email client since I worked at Netscape (nearly 20 years). I remember sitting in a meeting with someone asking "What's the email client for our mail server supposed to be -- Outlook??". My hunch is the same thing will happen this time -- it will endure. Perhaps this is a play to get some of the big businesses that depend on having a viable non-Microsoft/works-on-Linux email client to pony up some cash?
Mozilla Wants To Split Off Its Thunderbird Email/Chat Client
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#322I'm saddened because the only thing holding me back from using Linux full time at work is the lack of a good calendar and e-mail application. Of course thunderbird is insufficient for me who rely on Microsoft Exchange at work but it could still be a contender to Evolution given the right development focus. Evolution, the number one alternative I know of today, has had shaky EWS support from day one and in Fedora 23 o…
Have you checked out Exchange EWS Provider [1], currently maintained by Ericsson? This has been around for a few years [2], and when the developer could no longer spend time on it, Ericsson took it over. The extension is not perfect, but you can get some stuff done. Another alternative is the DavMail gateway [3], which runs as a separate (Java) program that sits between your Exchange server and Thunderbird. [I haven'…
I'm using [1] against exch2013 without any major issues.
Make sure your exchange environment autodiscover is properly configured, and ensure you have IMAP available (for thunderbird mail) and the setup will go smoothly.
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#323When development "stopped" a while back, I tried to switch to alternatives. Evolution is high quality, but doesn't fit the way I want to work...no matter how many notifications I turn off, it always seems to find a way to be annoying and invasive. There are no OSS webmail clients as good as Thunderbird or GMail (even though I work on Usermin, and it is a competent webmail client compared to other OSS options, we just don't have the resources to push it forward enough to match native or something as amazing as GMail or Inbox, especially since it is not our core business).
So, I will keep using Thunderbird, and hope that it keeps seeing occasional updates. I assume it will...it's got millions of users. Surely some of them are developers, with itches to scratch.
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#325I think this is the 3rd time I've heard Thunderbird is/is going to be unmaintained and that I should avoid it, but I'm yet to see a good alternative. Claws was crashy and didn't DPI scale properly on Windows, OS X Mail had strange behavior with my IMAP server and I just wanted a consistent UI with my Windows and Linux system. My next option is webmail but there's no good IMAP webmail client that seems to be able to h…
For Webmail or IMAP mail, look no further than Fastmail. These guys know exactly what they are doing with IMAP and they can easily accomodate your multiple accounts. I've been a Fastmail user for almost a decade. I've never been happier with any email provider (or any provider, to be honest). You pay for the service, but it's worth the money and more. You are treated like a valued customer and the support, if needed,…
How does it compare to, say, Gmail enterprise? Well, apart from the whole Google Apps.
I'm curious because we'll have to migrate to a better email provider in a month or two, and Gmail enterprise seemed to be the best fit for us (price, storage, good iOS app to leverage push notifications, etc).
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#326I think this is the 3rd time I've heard Thunderbird is/is going to be unmaintained and that I should avoid it, but I'm yet to see a good alternative. Claws was crashy and didn't DPI scale properly on Windows, OS X Mail had strange behavior with my IMAP server and I just wanted a consistent UI with my Windows and Linux system. My next option is webmail but there's no good IMAP webmail client that seems to be able to h…
I personally use mu4e. If you've tried it a year or so ago, it has made many improvements since then. It is terminal based, but I find I can't use thunderbird any more after switching.
So do I. offlineimap for syncing mails with my IMAP server at fastmail and mu4e for reading mails. Search is superfast, but I miss a better handling of spam mails. Thunderbird is really good at sorting out spam once you've trained the spam filter.
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#327They want to kill XUL for Firefox so they can be all fancy HTML. So they have to kill Thunderbird, a XUL app. In a few years the all new HTML Firefox will come out. My bet is that it will suck. It will lack a TON of features that the existing Firefox has, but hey, it's all HTML! And you won't be able to stick on the old one, because within a week or two some critical security flaw will be discovered and eventually (l…
>So when the crappy HTML Firefox shows up, with way less features than the Firefox of today, remember that this (Thunderbird) was one of the things given up to have it. Please recall that Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox was born as a lightweight, fast alternative to the bloat of Netscape Communicator/Mozilla Suite. Dropping features from an old bloated application is what launched Firefox to fame in the first place.
And then all the extension authors wasted years of their life reimplementing all the features that Firefox had lost along the way.
This isn't progress.
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#329I think this is the 3rd time I've heard Thunderbird is/is going to be unmaintained and that I should avoid it, but I'm yet to see a good alternative. Claws was crashy and didn't DPI scale properly on Windows, OS X Mail had strange behavior with my IMAP server and I just wanted a consistent UI with my Windows and Linux system. My next option is webmail but there's no good IMAP webmail client that seems to be able to h…
I'm certainly at a loss for amother decent mail client that works on OS X and with Exchange.
I've been using Mail.app with Exchange for 3 years, never had a problem. Is there anything in particular missing?
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#330I think this is the 3rd time I've heard Thunderbird is/is going to be unmaintained and that I should avoid it, but I'm yet to see a good alternative. Claws was crashy and didn't DPI scale properly on Windows, OS X Mail had strange behavior with my IMAP server and I just wanted a consistent UI with my Windows and Linux system. My next option is webmail but there's no good IMAP webmail client that seems to be able to h…
Thunderbird usage continues to grow, almost reaching 10M users: https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2015/02/thunderbird-usa...
Is that more than Firefox OS?