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Re: Lists

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Post by 8ig8 »

idlewords wrote: post #62

I run a bookmarking site, which is an ecological niche in the world of lists. The pattern I've seen over the years is that a bookmarking site will arise, based on some fairly specific idea of what managing bookmarks should look like. As it catches on, the owners will discover that people have distinct and curious ways they like to manage their bookmarks. In an effort to grow the site, they will add features that try…

For the uninitiated, this guy's bookmarking site is Pinboard (https://pinboard.in). It's a fantastic service and I hope it never changes.

Re: Lists

#72

Post by presty »

I've been working on this since around the beginning of the year, still a lot of things missing, but might as well get some feedback since this "topic" has been getting a lot of attention (with BJ Novak's app and Fred's post and others): http://alpha.ohyeahlists.com/

as the url implies, it's still in alpha stage

Re: Lists

#74

Post by aguynamedben »

danso wrote: post #30

One of the favorite lists of all time -- in terms of both contemporary utility and in simplicity, is the MacRumors buyers guide: http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ Maybe it was slapped together in a cumbersome way, but I can't imagine it having to be anything more complicated than 3 lists (or spreadsheets), if you're relatively anal about normalization: One for the list of products, one for the list of updates per pro…

Wirecutter is a similar format... a list of "Best X to Buy" http://thewirecutter.com/

Re: Lists

#75

Post by AznHisoka »

callmeed wrote: post #15
fomojola wrote: post #8

Odd: Pinterest seems to me like the breakout published list platform. No one said lists have to be words only: a Pinterest board is just a list with pictures.

Yeah, but boards don't really take center stage in Pinterest's UI. Feeds and search results are really an amalgam of various pins and boards. If I wanted to see a board of "25 Great Christmas Gifts for Under $25", it's not obvious where to look or whose board is authoritative.

A lot of people use Pinterest to build lists of gifts or whatever. That's the main use case. Discovery is secondary, in my opinion.

Re: Lists

#76

Post by askafriend »

8ig8 wrote: post #71
idlewords wrote: post #62

I run a bookmarking site, which is an ecological niche in the world of lists. The pattern I've seen over the years is that a bookmarking site will arise, based on some fairly specific idea of what managing bookmarks should look like. As it catches on, the owners will discover that people have distinct and curious ways they like to manage their bookmarks. In an effort to grow the site, they will add features that try…

For the uninitiated, this guy's bookmarking site is Pinboard ( https://pinboard.in ). It's a fantastic service and I hope it never changes.

He is also a Twitter god. Highly recommend following @pinboard.

Re: Lists

#77

Post by bachmeier »

Lists are only part of project management/collaboration, and because that is a situation where needs vary widely and the benefits of customization are huge, it is futile to try to design an app for making lists. The best list making app is a good scripting language. Wunderlist, Evernote, todoist, etc. all have nice features, but they are just not ever going to work for more than a small percentage of the population.

Re: Lists

#78

Post by zaroth »

0898 wrote: post #47

Just out of curiosity, when did lists become a medium in their own right? To me, they're a formatting choice. Are 'lists' a thing?

Yes, in fact when you look into it, there are a surprising number of products which are putting different UX around simple ordered or unordered lists.

Re: Lists

#79

Post by lubujackson »

There's no "killer app" for lists because lists are dumb subset of rich data that we are much, much better equipped to navigate than we were pre-Internet.

Re: Lists

#80

Post by lubujackson »

mceoin wrote: post #57

We encountered this “orthagonality” in the early days of SFDevLabs while trying to build a list-based site for navigating the Internet. Our approach to list creation was bookmarking, yet the more we build for the individual, the more we built a siloed product and strayed away from the potential of network effects, which was objective in the first place! (whoops) I’m still fairly-well convinced that list-based sites a…

I worked on a project for a while with exactly these assumptions, but haven't been able to find the magic sauce to make this approach flow the way it needs to. I think my one discovery, though, is that any new Internet "site map" is going to have to be carved out of some level between websites and web pages. Websites are too broad, while web pages are too ephemeral.
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