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Re: Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And mess with your neighbor's life by placing your own landing placards in your fenced-off backyard.

How does this "mess with your neighbor's life"? I wouldn't see this being a huge concern unless you happened to place 4 or 5 orders a day.

I think the poster was implying that you trick the drone into delivering your neighbor's package into your backyard by putting the card out even when you're not expecting a delivery.

Re: Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design

#42
post #13

I wonder how can delivery with drones be more economically effective than with cars and drivers, with "distances of 10 miles or more"? Which, if I'm not mistaken, still somewhat exceeds capabilities of today's drones.

People are expensive.

They're not that expensive and are very flexible dealing with the very analog common-sense-requiring situation that is dropping off a package.

Re: Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design

#43

Does anyone else think that underground tunnels are a superior way to solve the last few miles problem? Tunnels about 1 foot in diameter with little wheeled vehicles pushing around payloads of takeaway food, groceries , parcels at reasonable speed with control computers determining routing and stopping collisions. A functioning network of this type would be more valuable than power or cable utility networks, and hori…

Creating tunnels would be several orders of magnitude more expensive than creating the technology for drone delivery, lobbying for it's adoption across various municipalities and so on.

Re: Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design

#44
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are expensive.

They're not that expensive and are very flexible dealing with the very analog common-sense-requiring situation that is dropping off a package.

They are much, much more expensive then drones. Minimum wage, benefits, delivery vehicle maintenance, insurance, etc etc etc.

Re: Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design

#45
post #22

Here's what I think is more likely: A small regional airport is taken over by Amazon. They build hangars and warehouses onsite. It's ramped up to land and fly a big turbine-powered mothership every five minutes. The warehouse dispatches packages to stacks of delivery drones like the one pictured in the video. The mothership loads the delivery drones in order. The motherships take off regularly, and then as the mother…

I assume this is for bigger cities though. In Chicago you can get to over 2 million people within 6 miles as the crow flies. If you can dodge powerless and buildings it seems reasonable...

I wonder how many of those 2 million people have an appropriate size space for this video's "landing zone in the back garden"?

Where I live is probably high enough density to make this idea work, but there's not enough landing space I think: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.9038146,151.1761515,327m...

Re: Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design

#46
post #39

Does anyone else think that underground tunnels are a superior way to solve the last few miles problem? Tunnels about 1 foot in diameter with little wheeled vehicles pushing around payloads of takeaway food, groceries , parcels at reasonable speed with control computers determining routing and stopping collisions. A functioning network of this type would be more valuable than power or cable utility networks, and hori…

More likely than not, these drones are for the rural last mile problem, where drivers aren't worth the cost. In that case tunnels wouldn't be worth the cost.

It's most likely the last 20 miles problem where delivery costs are a problem. I live in an exurban area but I imagine UPS economics works fine here. If I live in the back of beyond I imagine it's hard to make any delivery system work without subsidies.

Re: Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design

#47
post #22

Here's what I think is more likely: A small regional airport is taken over by Amazon. They build hangars and warehouses onsite. It's ramped up to land and fly a big turbine-powered mothership every five minutes. The warehouse dispatches packages to stacks of delivery drones like the one pictured in the video. The mothership loads the delivery drones in order. The motherships take off regularly, and then as the mother…

I agree with the last one, but ground delivery robots would make way more sense. I don't know about 30-60 minutes, however. The soccer shoe emergency can't really be that big of a market. Emergency medicine by drone delivery I get, but the reason people go shopping nowadays is either grocery or an excuse to get out of the house. Drones are never going to eliminate the excuse to get out of the house factor.

Today's soccer shoe emergency is tomorrow's normal turnaround. Imagine trying to explain to someone living in the 90s that they just have to watch this one TV show right now.

Surely they could just walk down to their local video rental store, not that many people really need to watch something right now!

But once something like BitTorrent & Netflix happens it becomes the new expectation. I think something like drone delivery or delivery via autonomous vehicles is going to similarly change the market for the delivery of physical goods.

Re: Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design

#48
post #36

I think there's gonna be alot of teenage pranks and destruction. People setting the landing spot in the water or people stealing them with nets. Not sure if much recourse unless there camera footage or gps locator.

This is the standard fear response to new technologies. Uber: how can you get in a car with a stranger? Airbnb: Even Paul Graham said "are you nuts?". Self driving cars: but what if people take advantage of it's collision avoidance abilities to walk in front? etc. etc. The fact is, most people are not malicious, life goes on anyway, and the risk of vandalism is quantifiable and included in the cost of doing business.…

I find a lot of the whole drone delivery thing pretty silly outside of some specific scenarios. Nonetheless, there is an equally silly "we must guarantee 100% reliability and security" thought." UPS does fine. They have no trouble leaving most packages at my door. They probably don't live the same thing at other doors. (Though I don't know their heuristics for such things.)

Re: Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design

#49
post #22

Here's what I think is more likely: A small regional airport is taken over by Amazon. They build hangars and warehouses onsite. It's ramped up to land and fly a big turbine-powered mothership every five minutes. The warehouse dispatches packages to stacks of delivery drones like the one pictured in the video. The mothership loads the delivery drones in order. The motherships take off regularly, and then as the mother…

It's worth noting that Amazon already has warehouses in major urban centers for Prime Now: Nashville, Richmond, San Diego, Portland, Los Angeles, New York City, San Francisco.

It seems plausible that by the time (i.e. in a few years) Amazon gets regulatory support for its delivery drones in a suburban community that it'll have saturated urban delivery markets in the US and will be ready to build warehouses in the suburbs.

Re: Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design

#50

Cue Amazon's PR firm trying to win 'cyber-monday'. Whether or not Amazon ever delivers packages with drones, the ROI on the drone R&D is massive simply based on how much attention it draws each year on cyber monday.

Amazon is such an interesting company to watch. They do really dumb and goofy stuff, all the time, in very visible ways, but under the radar they've got the largest cloud hosting business in the world chugging along devouring everything in its path that most people don't even know about. I mean, none of my non-technical friends know AWS exists or what it is, and few realize Amazon is one of the most powerful and influential tech companies in the world.

This drone stuff even feels like a distraction so that nobody notices what Amazon is actually up to. It's currently so far from useful, but it does generate a lot of PR for Amazon, and the timing is not at all subtle.

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