Ruby for sure. Amazing community with super awesome OSS software.
Ask HN: Which open source projects have kind, supportive, talented teams?
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Re: Ask HN: Which open source projects have kind, supportive, talented teams?
#262Can't recommend http://www.onyxplatform.org/ highly enough. Tight core of extremely talented and passionate engineers who are working on an exciting project in a more exciting space.
Ditto this. The felxibility of Onyx's design really makes it a powerful tool. And working with it feels very "Lispy" and "Clojure-y" - true to it's platform since it's written in Clojure.
Re: Ask HN: Which open source projects have kind, supportive, talented teams?
#263Earlier quoted context omitted.
> ought to be denied various legal rights I think you have to be a little more specific. If merely removing a former legal right is evil, who were the bad guys when a Maryland referendum removed the right to own slaves[0]? Yes, I went there, but hear me out. I think you need to talk about moral rights, not legal rights, because some legal rights came about because of bad laws or the court evolving the laws contrary t…
I think you have to be a little more specific. If merely removing a former legal right is evil, who were the bad guys when a Maryland referendum removed the right to own slaves I think the answer to that is clear if you subscribe to the principal that one person's rights end where another person's rights begin. It's certainly true that the slaveowners had the rug pulled out from under them in a sense but their legal…
> it's very difficult to see how one person's consensual marriage could possibly infringe on another person's rights.
Maybe to you, but others argue that it's bad for society etc. It wasn't so "settled" in 2008 when Eich donated and that cause won the election. I'm not even sure a significant portion calling for his resignation would have supported an apology, if he decided to change his position. This is the opposite of a free, healthy, diverse society.
> It's incredibly fallacious, though, to suggest that same-sex couples shouldn't have the right to marry simply because there's another tricky marriage-rights question out there.
My intention wasn't to suggest that, but to note that for some reason gay rights are popular and polyamorous rights aren't. If Eich had donated to keep polygamy illegal, not nearly as many people would have cared IMO. People are being denied rights in both cases, but only one is fashionable to support right now. That hypocrisy bothers me, not the legal status of same-sex couples.
This is veering further off-topic, but BTW I can think of one reason to not give all the same legal rights to polygamous marriages: it's maybe too easy to "abuse" by marrying yourself to every friend you want to give a piece of your insurance coverage, tax breaks, etc.
> Hopefully some things that you and I believe today will be viewed as positively caveman-like in 200 years. That's the price of progress.
But if you weren't on the right side just 6 years ago, you're viewed just as caveman-like and don't deserve your job?
> This and the "crucify" thing are really straw man arguments.
Perhaps it's hyperbolic. On the other hand, the counter-arguments invoking the KKK are too. There's a difference between going out in a mob and killing people, or donating money to a reasonably controversial cause that is part of our political process.
Re: Ask HN: Which open source projects have kind, supportive, talented teams?
#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
A litmus test of a great community is how they deal with people who are technically useful but socially reprehensible.
That's an awfully strong judgment to make on the sole basis of a $1000 donation to a popular cause (one that won the election, no less). It's not like he was a leader of the anti- gay-marriage movement. If he didn't bring his politics to work, there was no good reason for anyone else to. There's no evidence that his views on gay marriage affected how he treated anyone at Mozilla. Not a single complaint as far as I've…
Agree 100%. It is shameful the way they treated the man.I wont encourage anyone to participate in open source work in Mozilla.
Re: Ask HN: Which open source projects have kind, supportive, talented teams?
#265Most open source project teams are decent except Mozilla,which is vindictive at best.
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#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just before Eich's donation, Obama was against gay marriage too and even said marriage was not a civil right: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/timeline-of-oba...
The difference is that Eich never actually apologized, or said his opinion changed. It was always, "Don't worry, Mozilla will be fine!" He argued that accepting bigotry is a form of inclusion. So, all signs point to him remaining a bigot.
He does not need to apologize on his donation.Apologize over what?.It is folks like you that are creating problem where none exits.
Re: Ask HN: Which open source projects have kind, supportive, talented teams?
#267Django
Django Under The Hood was primarily a conference about love and acceptance of all fellow beings, I think :-)
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Agree 100%. The Rust community is excellent.
In my experience the Rust community exhibits a cloaked form of tyranny. On the surface they are very vocal about supporting 'inclusiveness' and 'non-discrimination' and 'tolerance'. Yet they use a rather harsh and subjective code of conduct to control and police the members of their community. Last I knew they even had a moderation team who doled out punishment without any due process nor any oversight of significanc…
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#269Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you have to be a little more specific. If merely removing a former legal right is evil, who were the bad guys when a Maryland referendum removed the right to own slaves I think the answer to that is clear if you subscribe to the principal that one person's rights end where another person's rights begin. It's certainly true that the slaveowners had the rug pulled out from under them in a sense but their legal…
> it's very difficult to see how one person's consensual marriage could possibly infringe on another person's rights. Maybe to you, but others argue that it's bad for society etc. It wasn't so "settled" in 2008 when Eich donated and that cause won the election. I'm not even sure a significant portion calling for his resignation would have supported an apology, if he decided to change his position. This is the opposit…
He has fucked up personal beliefs-- this is a fact. These personal beliefs could have been kept in a box in his mind, but when he spoke on this publicly and loudly as a public figure, well.....
It'd be nice if we could all do work that allows us to voice our exact thoughts at every moment.... or would it?
Re: Ask HN: Which open source projects have kind, supportive, talented teams?
#270Awesome open source crews:
* Rancher - https://github.com/rancher * Weave - https://github.com/weave.works * OpenStack (IRC) - irc.freenode.net #openstack * Kubernetes - https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes * Docker - https://github.com/docker * EmileVague - https://github.com/EmileVauge/traefik * Enspiral - enspiral.com * MetaMaps - metamaps.cc
....That's an incomplete list of projects whose teams have put up with me, and even gone so far as to ask for more. I've worked in OSS for a little over a year now, and I can heartily say that I haven't regretted the decision once.