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Re: Pirated Courses on Udemy

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Post by unavoidable »

Coding_Cat wrote: post #50
braum wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Make sure you file copyright for each video before making it available on your own website. Having a copyright in place before any theft allows you to go after (by threat or course) statutory damages for each theft of your work. I learned this a few years ago from our own IP lawyer when someone was reusing some of our material. We now file the $35(or whatever it is) fee before posting the material online.

File for copyright? how do you mean: Copyright is implicit, unlike patents, upon creation of a work.

You can file a registration for copyright, which gives you certain presumptions and advantages in court (e.g. it serves as a presumption of ownership, which would be important in these kinds of cases). It also might serve as "notice" for potential infringers so that you can get higher damages.

Re: Pirated Courses on Udemy

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Post by catshirt »

braum wrote: post #39
Animats wrote: post #34

You can go after Udemy. They're not just a hosting service. They claim ownership of the content . "Each of our 35,000+ courses is taught by an expert instructor". Many courses are paid. If Udemy charges for access to the course, they lose the DMCA safe harbor. Then they're liable for full copyright damages. This may even be criminal copyright infringment under 18 U.S. Code § 2319 (Criminal infringement of a copyright…

Make sure you file copyright for each video before making it available on your own website. Having a copyright in place before any theft allows you to go after (by threat or course) statutory damages for each theft of your work. I learned this a few years ago from our own IP lawyer when someone was reusing some of our material. We now file the $35(or whatever it is) fee before posting the material online.

all work you create is copyrighted. you own the content you produce

this is why, I believe, it's actually against copyright law to use an open source project that doesn't include a license.

Re: Pirated Courses on Udemy

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Post by mhurron »

catshirt wrote: post #52
braum wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Make sure you file copyright for each video before making it available on your own website. Having a copyright in place before any theft allows you to go after (by threat or course) statutory damages for each theft of your work. I learned this a few years ago from our own IP lawyer when someone was reusing some of our material. We now file the $35(or whatever it is) fee before posting the material online.

all work you create is copyrighted. you own the content you produce this is why, I believe, it's actually against copyright law to use an open source project that doesn't include a license.

> use an open source project that doesn't include a license.

It's not open source if it doesn't include a license stating that it is.

Re: Pirated Courses on Udemy

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Post by robconery »

lemevi wrote: post #27

Did he even try to contact Udemy support and get a response? It would seem like the thing to do before writing a hit piece. I interviewed at Udemy, but ended up taking a position somewhere else, yet they struck me as good people trying to make a good product. I don't like piracy and the author has been wronged, but this blog post is unfair.

Yes, I did. As did Troy. No reponse (now as then).

You entirely miss the point of the article - it's not about piracy, it's about a marketplace for pirated goods. That's what Udemy does. Sorry if I'm not nice about it.

Re: Pirated Courses on Udemy

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Post by downandout »

wturner wrote: post #47

I don't want to derail this with a personal story but this might be useful. I wrote a JavaScript course that I was contracted by someone on Elance to do for very little ( relative to the amount of time I put into it ), he then sold it to another company, that company then put it on Udemy. For a small amount of time it was at the top of the list of beginner JavaScript courses and had over 10,000 students enrolled. I'm…

Sounds like you should create another and send it straight to Udemy or one of their competitors.

Re: Pirated Courses on Udemy

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Post by xacaxulu »

I wonder how many people who wrote courses that are now being pirated on Udemy ever torrented music or movies illegally, used someone else's Netflix account, DRM stripped Kindle books etc. I don't agree with Udemy, but it's always crappier when it happens to you.

Re: Pirated Courses on Udemy

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Post by [deleted] »

ps4fanboy wrote: post #22
robconery wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Define "dangerous". Listen mate, if you make money on something and that something is stolen - you are responsible. Udemy created this marketplace for stolen things; people steal things and sell them there. > the correct course of action is to sue Nope. That's what people do in a dispute to solve the dispute. The correct course of action is something else entirely as we're talking about copyright law, not pissing on…

> Define "dangerous" Dangerous was a bad word choice, perhaps "unreasonable". > Listen mate, if you make money on something and that something is stolen - you are responsible I never claimed they arent responsible and as the DCMA outlines they mitigate their responsibility for hosting this content by allowing DCMA take downs. What are you suggesting Udemy do to validate that the content creator owns the content they…

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Re: Pirated Courses on Udemy

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Post by nerfhammer »

greenyoda wrote: post #2

Filling out Udemy's "Report Abuse" form to report a "Copyright or Trademark Violation" probably doesn't create any legal obligation on their part to take any action. The author (copyright holder) should have filed an official DMCA takedown request, directed at Udemy's designated DMCA contact, whose e-mail and postal addresses can be found here: https://www.udemy.com/terms/copyright/

Udemy must "not receive a financial benefit directly attributable to the infringing activity" in order for DCMA to be applicable. Since they're charging for the courses it's probably ordinary copyright infringement on their part. You should send them a Cease and Desist and then sue them.

Re: Pirated Courses on Udemy

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Post by andreasvc »

wturner wrote: post #47

I don't want to derail this with a personal story but this might be useful. I wrote a JavaScript course that I was contracted by someone on Elance to do for very little ( relative to the amount of time I put into it ), he then sold it to another company, that company then put it on Udemy. For a small amount of time it was at the top of the list of beginner JavaScript courses and had over 10,000 students enrolled. I'm…

I don't think you can do paid work and stipulate whether the they can later sell it to anyone. If you can learn something from this, it should be that next time you might be able to cut out the middle man.
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