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NSA to shut down bulk phone surveillance program by Sunday

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Re: NSA to shut down bulk phone surveillance program by Sunday

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On Monday, the Pope will convert to Islam. On Tuesday, Elon Musk will start his journey to Mars. Wednesday, Isis declares peace. By Thursday, the static vs. dynamic typing debate will finally be solved. On Friday, king Salman of Saudi Arabia will donate all his wealth to charity. And finally, on Saturday, Elon Musk will land on Mars.

On Sunday, the Vim vs Emacs debate will finally come to an end.

Re: NSA to shut down bulk phone surveillance program by Sunday

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post #8

On Monday, the Pope will convert to Islam. On Tuesday, Elon Musk will start his journey to Mars. Wednesday, Isis declares peace. By Thursday, the static vs. dynamic typing debate will finally be solved. On Friday, king Salman of Saudi Arabia will donate all his wealth to charity. And finally, on Saturday, Elon Musk will land on Mars.

On Sunday, the Vim vs Emacs debate will finally come to an end.

This sudden bout of positivity on HN is worrisome.

Re: NSA to shut down bulk phone surveillance program by Sunday

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As required by law, the NSA will end its wide-ranging surveillance program by 11:59 p.m. EST Saturday (4:59 a.m. GMT Sunday) and expects to have the new, scaled-back system in place by then, the White House said. "As required by law"? The government violated the Fourth Amendment and the director of national security committed perjury (1). As required by law, justice officials and prosecutors should have brought charg…

Yeah, and are they starting a new program on Saturday?

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post #7

As required by law, the NSA will end its wide-ranging surveillance program by 11:59 p.m. EST Saturday (4:59 a.m. GMT Sunday) and expects to have the new, scaled-back system in place by then, the White House said. "As required by law"? The government violated the Fourth Amendment and the director of national security committed perjury (1). As required by law, justice officials and prosecutors should have brought charg…

Not surprising to anyone who follows greenwald. Read his book With Liberty And Justice For _Some_

Re: NSA to shut down bulk phone surveillance program by Sunday

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As required by law, the NSA will end its wide-ranging surveillance program by 11:59 p.m. EST Saturday (4:59 a.m. GMT Sunday) and expects to have the new, scaled-back system in place by then, the White House said. "As required by law"? The government violated the Fourth Amendment and the director of national security committed perjury (1). As required by law, justice officials and prosecutors should have brought charg…

Where was it found the NSA violated the 4th amendment?

Re: NSA to shut down bulk phone surveillance program by Sunday

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And the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus will be holding a press conference on Monday.

"... and from Monday, the official language of the USA will be Swedish. In addition to that, all citizens will be required to change their underwear every half-hour. Underwear will be worn on the outside so we can check. Furthermore, all children under 16 years old are now... 16 years old..."

(adapted from Woody Allen's Bananas)

Re: NSA to shut down bulk phone surveillance program by Sunday

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"Some Republican lawmakers want to preserve bulk collection until 2017, citing the Nov. 13 Paris attacks in which 130 people died." It always leaves a bad taste in my mouth when politicians use an event (bad or otherwise) to prop up controversial legislation. If their reasoning is that the bulk surveillance program is necessary to avert terrorism, then surely they must have known or, at least, gotten a hint of what w…

> It always leaves a bad taste in my mouth when politicians use an event (bad or otherwise) to prop up controversial legislation

"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before." - Rahm Emanuel

Re: NSA to shut down bulk phone surveillance program by Sunday

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There's no way to win here. If the government outright abolished the NSA at noon, there would be dozens of hn comments at 12:01 saying "Yeah, but did they really abolish it?" or "But what about all the bad things they did when they existed? or "They'll just do something even worse next".

It seems like distrust of authority is just a part of some people's personality. Perceived wrong doing by the government in the past has caused them to distrust the government into perpetuity, even if that same government does exactly what those people demand. So why should the authorities listen at all? It's like a convicted felon who can no longer get a job or be part of society. Why not just go back to a life of crime? You're damned if you and damned if you don't.

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