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Re: Worg, the Org-Mode Community

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Post by reirob »

bachmeier wrote: post #20

I use org-mode almost every day, and I think it's great, but I also think it's fair to point out what I see as its biggest disadvantage. It changes. And by that I mean the developers don't care at all about breakage. This has caused countless problems for me over the years in two ways: i. You better be using exactly the same org-mode version on all of your computers, because there is no concept of backward compatibil…

Thanks for your comment. I started using org-mode only this year and so far didn't have to change the version yet - so your comment is a good warning to avoid investigations into functionality that relies on exporters.

I am using org-mode daily, mostly for work notes and logging working time - allows me to quickly generate time reports to the customers. However I didn't yet go into other functionality like presentations.

Re: Worg, the Org-Mode Community

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Post by _yy »

joonoro wrote: post #23
_yy wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't have to be that complicated, though. I recommend starting with a simple workflow. As a former Vim user, I can recommend evil-mode and the SpaceMacs project: https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs https://bitbucket.org/lyro/evil/wiki/Home > An Emacs distribution - The best editor is neither Emacs nor Vim, it's Emacs and Vim! Evil is a very, very complete Vim emulation in Emacs. I have yet to find a feature whic…

> Doesn't have to be that complicated, though. I recommend starting with a simple workflow. Definitely agree. I tried to force myself into using tags and agenda when I first started and it didn't end well. Instead you should start out using it as a simple TODO list manager and slowly use more advanced features when you figure out how they could fit in with your workflow. I think Carsten Dominik (the original author o…

Just use org-mode like you would use a paper todo list, and then add the bells and whistles when you need them. No need to spend a week setting it up.

Re: Worg, the Org-Mode Community

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Post by _yy »

bachmeier wrote: post #20

I use org-mode almost every day, and I think it's great, but I also think it's fair to point out what I see as its biggest disadvantage. It changes. And by that I mean the developers don't care at all about breakage. This has caused countless problems for me over the years in two ways: i. You better be using exactly the same org-mode version on all of your computers, because there is no concept of backward compatibil…

So far, I haven't encountered any undocumented or severe breakage when staying with the stable version. Of course, things are different if you pull from Git master, but that's to be expected...

Re: Worg, the Org-Mode Community

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Post by _yy »

vox_mollis wrote: post #32

Many comments here are claiming that org-mode is a "life changer", without qualification. I'm curious, what, specifically, has it changed about your life?

It's the first todo list application I've encountered which can actually compete with a piece of paper.

Re: Worg, the Org-Mode Community

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Post by _yy »

ChanderG wrote: post #8
jonwot wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's life changing, lol. Really take a weekend or two to get acquainted with it. (Fight through the emacs tidbits or use evil-mode). You will not regret it.

Am a vim user, who forced myself to learn/use Emacs just for Org-mode recently. It really is life changing.

Do try evil-mode/spacemacs!

Re: Worg, the Org-Mode Community

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Post by _yy »

ChanderG wrote: post #8
jonwot wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's life changing, lol. Really take a weekend or two to get acquainted with it. (Fight through the emacs tidbits or use evil-mode). You will not regret it.

Am a vim user, who forced myself to learn/use Emacs just for Org-mode recently. It really is life changing.

Do try evil-mode/spacemacs!

Re: Worg, the Org-Mode Community

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Post by e19293001 »

vox_mollis wrote: post #32

Many comments here are claiming that org-mode is a "life changer", without qualification. I'm curious, what, specifically, has it changed about your life?

The qualification is not fake. To quote from this tutorial[0], the author says:

I have been using org-mode as my personal information manager for years now. I started small with just the default TODO and DONE keywords. I added small changes to my workflow and over time it evolved into what is described by this document.

I still change my workflow and try new things regularly. This document describes mature workflows in my current org-mode setup. I tend to document changes to my workflow 30 days after implementing them (assuming they are still around at that point) so that the new workflow has a chance to mature.

> I'm curious, what, specifically, has it changed about your life?

It changed my life by consistently improving my workflow and I've become way more productive by doing it. I got impressed on my self when I automate things that seems difficult and time consuming to manually track. Extending emacs never ends when you keep on finding better ways on how to use it.

[0] http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html

Re: Worg, the Org-Mode Community

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Post by bachmeier »

_yy wrote: post #34
bachmeier wrote: post #20

I use org-mode almost every day, and I think it's great, but I also think it's fair to point out what I see as its biggest disadvantage. It changes. And by that I mean the developers don't care at all about breakage. This has caused countless problems for me over the years in two ways: i. You better be using exactly the same org-mode version on all of your computers, because there is no concept of backward compatibil…

So far, I haven't encountered any undocumented or severe breakage when staying with the stable version. Of course, things are different if you pull from Git master, but that's to be expected...

I'm using the stable version. However, if I install on a new computer, I don't want to go with a year old version just to maintain compatibility with my other installs. And if I collaborate with someone else, it's unlikely they'll have the same version.
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