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After 5 Years there's a new 7zip non-beta release

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Re: After 5 Years there's a new 7zip non-beta release

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Post by i336_ »

nikolay wrote: post #37
josteink wrote: post #36

Looking at the changelog, I was amazed at how many disk-image formats 7zip supported and I newer knew. Especially the amount added recent months seemed impressive. So I checked my current version... And Ubuntu 16.10 ships version 9.20, which is from 2010. Yay. Edit: On further inspection, downloading the source from sourceforge and building it locally was a matter of minutes though. But that feels so utterly un-Ubunt…

You mean "Ubuntu 15.10", I guess? I'm really tired of having to add dozens of PPAs in order to have a sane up-to-date Ubuntu environment. I can understand core packages, which are mostly on the server side to be conservative, but packages like 7zip and others should be updated more frequently.

On the one hand I feel Arch is trying to redefine some kind of OS X-inspired "chic 1337" and is throwing UNIX history out the window to do so, and on the other hand the feedback cycle with Gentoo is slow enough I fear I'll constantly vacillate between "gah, just let it rebuild overnight" and "GAH THIS TIME MY FINGERS DON'T LEAVE ^C".

What else is there that's sanely up-to-date out-of-the-box, doesn't have bizarre redistribution issues (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10613518), and would appeal to someone who uses Slackware but wouldn't mind dependency resolution?

I was already recommended FreeBSD and that's on the todo list.

Re: After 5 Years there's a new 7zip non-beta release

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Post by soylentcola »

oneweekwonder wrote: post #24
digi_owl wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another major contributor is likely that with rar you can make a multi-file self-extractor. Seem to recall that before broadband and torrents, many a pirated game was released as a split rar .exe that could fit on floppies and was spread across numerous upload sites. Dump them all in a dir, run the exe, and game on...

I believe winzip had the same feature of creating a exe zip spanning over multiple files, for using on floppies.

I only remember using that feature when zipping something up myself and it would have you keep inserting floppies as needed. I'm sure you could then post images of the floppies for distribution but I never really saw that done. It was always .r00, .r01, etc on usenet.

Re: After 5 Years there's a new 7zip non-beta release

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Post by i336_ »

digi_owl wrote: post #20
jakobdabo wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RAR has some unique built-in characteristics like recovery record (useful when archiving on optical discs, or any other media which can degrade in time) and recovery volumes (which was a life-saver feature in the age of floppy disks).

Another major contributor is likely that with rar you can make a multi-file self-extractor. Seem to recall that before broadband and torrents, many a pirated game was released as a split rar .exe that could fit on floppies and was spread across numerous upload sites. Dump them all in a dir, run the exe, and game on...

7z can't do the exe bit I don't think, but it can make split archives of arbitrary size (in bytes).

Re: After 5 Years there's a new 7zip non-beta release

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Post by DiThi »

rocky1138 wrote: post #31
eco wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is the default. It's always worked for me just fine.

You are so lucky. I've installed on every Windows machine I've had for years and have never had it work out of the box. I've got to right-click a .7z and choose open with -> 7zip. I'll take a look at my setup when I get home tonight.

It doesn't associate on setup. You have to open 7zip, go to options and you see this http://i.imgur.com/12dpE7G.png

I usually click "Select all" then unselect ISO. Done.

Edit: other person replied it must be opened in Administrator mode. That explains why I didn't have it associated.

Re: After 5 Years there's a new 7zip non-beta release

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Post by i336_ »

jmnicolas wrote: post #13
dfc wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever downloaded a scene release?

Yeah it's usually an ISO within multiple RARs within multiple ZIPs. And this is when they don't act playful and use an obscure archive format that can only be extracted with a (paid or free but infected) closed source app. Depending on the platform I'm using I have some code in bash, Powershell and C# to deal with this. Non coders must have a hard time !

What formats are you referring to? o.o

Re: After 5 Years there's a new 7zip non-beta release

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Post by kijin »

> 7-Zip now can extract ext3 and ext4 (Linux file system) images.

> 7-Zip now can extract ext2 and multivolume VMDK images.

> 7-Zip now can extract GPT images and single file QCOW2, VMDK, VDI images.

These are seriously impressive features! I hope someone will build on top of them to improve ext4 support in Windows.

The ability to extract files from VM images without actually firing up a VM or using other convoluted tools is also going to be very useful to me.

Re: After 5 Years there's a new 7zip non-beta release

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Post by RDeckard »

dave2000 wrote: post #38
scott_karana wrote: post #4

The changelog is sparse, but Igor has some comments on the release on Sourceforge. http://sourceforge.net/p/sevenzip/discussion/45797/thread/6c...

Why are they still using sourceforge?

Probably because it works, they have been using it in the past, and there is no reason to move off of it.

Re: After 5 Years there's a new 7zip non-beta release

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Post by Shorel »

e2e8 wrote: post #22
rocky1138 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is because, on Windows, you can't double click a 7z file and have it open 7zip. If they fixed that, they'd have a winner.

If you have .7z files associated with 7z File Manager, it will open on double click. Is that not the default on installation?

You double click on the file and Windows shows two 7zip programs as an option.

If you choose the wrong one it will not work later.

And it will not repeat the dialog box with the options.

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