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Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

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Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

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To what degree are the power requirements on their faq still valid for the pi zero ? https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/faqs/#power The question I really want to ask is, how long will a 1.2A supply last with nothing else attached to it ?

Your question isn't meaningful, because amps are a measure of the rate at which a power supply can provide current. An AA battery can provide 1.2A for maybe an hour or two; a wall wart can provide 1.2A indefinitely.

He most probably meant 1.2Ah

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#112
Fantastic development, but I can't help but think about the years of pain we're going to be in security wise when people inevitably start using these for all sorts of "Internet of Things" purposes. Software stacks on these type of devices inevitably have lackluster cipher suites, sub-par protocol support, unpatched kernel/userland, etc—even if they run all the latest things out right now, they WILL get out of date and WILL NOT receive patches!

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#113
The biggest problem I had with my Raspberry PI was that it is seriously slow compared to a desktop machine. It takes time to setup. Time is money, right?

I suppose if you have some mass deployment to do, then great. But for the individual maker hacker.. there must be a better way to setup and experiment than waiting for this computer to reboot with the new config, recompile, etc.

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#114

The biggest problem I had with my Raspberry PI was that it is seriously slow compared to a desktop machine. It takes time to setup. Time is money, right? I suppose if you have some mass deployment to do, then great. But for the individual maker hacker.. there must be a better way to setup and experiment than waiting for this computer to reboot with the new config, recompile, etc.

I guess it depends on your use case and on your expectations. It took me about as much time to set up my RPi 2 as it takes to set up a new Linux VM, and since then it lies peacefully on top of a wardrobe, and I just connect over SSH to it. Rarely I need to reboot it :).

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#115

The biggest problem I had with my Raspberry PI was that it is seriously slow compared to a desktop machine. It takes time to setup. Time is money, right? I suppose if you have some mass deployment to do, then great. But for the individual maker hacker.. there must be a better way to setup and experiment than waiting for this computer to reboot with the new config, recompile, etc.

I guess it depends on your use case and on your expectations. It took me about as much time to set up my RPi 2 as it takes to set up a new Linux VM, and since then it lies peacefully on top of a wardrobe, and I just connect over SSH to it. Rarely I need to reboot it :).

I wanted to set up the pi as a wifi repeater. This sort of thing required lots of reboots. Took way too long to setup.

I think the way it should work is they need an emulator that runs on a desktop machine. Just like iOS & Android development. You get your setup working on the desktop & then deploy to device.

I guess the main problem with this is that often you want to try hardware that only works on the pi. Not sure what the solution is there.

Maybe soon these $5 computers will be screaming fast with fast SSD as well, will reboot in a few seconds, and so no problems.

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#116
post #98
post #26

This is seriously impressive. While the Raspberry Pi is not the perfect hacker-friendly computer, it has done a lot of good. Some reasons off the top of my head: 1. Providing a low cost computer has given many people access to computers. Giving more people access to the web, email, an office suit, a programming environment AND giving people the ability of safely tinker without the fear of bricking an expensive device…

This is probably the result of boards like the $9 C.H.I.P. stealing their thunder a little. (Which should actually be able to run Debian, unlike the Pi - Debian Jessie has built-in support for that generation of Allwinner chips.) The Pi has not actually been all that cheap lately compared to the competition. There's no reason they couldn't have done this years ago; like that Allwinner chip, the BCM2835 is an old, slo…

Olimex alleged[1] that the '$9' CHIP was being sold at a loss (which I guess is par for the course for a Kickstarter project).

>The Pi has not actually been all that cheap lately compared to the competition.

I'm not a big fan of the RPi Foundation & it's relationship with BroadCOMM, but which competition are you referring to? I tried searching for RPi-like boards a while back but only came up with HardKernel & the bananaPi, and I don't think either is a proper competitor.

1. https://olimex.wordpress.com/2015/06/05/how-to-get-in-the-ne...

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#117
Hi, maybe not entirely relevant for this topic - but maybe you guys have any idea how to build and cheap system which will gather temperature wireleslly to one place. Ideally I'd like to have 2 sensors (one inside and other outside, with own batteries) which will send data to some central device.

I have home server on MacMini - so WiFi could be option. Any ideas?

I've always wanted to build something like this which - but always ended calculations that are rather expensive and devices are relatively big.

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#118
post #31

Next awesome step would be RPi with integrated wifi/bluetooth, and it would become ultimate IoT/embedded development platform. Such step would increase price, I know, but AFAIK, most people are almost always buying either wifi or bluetooth dongles anyway. All in all, RPi ables to deliver exciting, rather (for me) unexpected and most importantly great and user-friendly products.

Wifi is a game changer IMO. I've just found out about esp8266, and its a mini revolution on the Arduino world.

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#119
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure about 1? Where are the maths please? In my little circle, the only people who have raspberry already have awesome computers and co. Curious about that.

How many people are there in your circle who want a computer but don't have one? Perhaps your crowd aren't the target for point 1.

Oh, yep sure! And the visible facts are?

(really, no needs to downvote me. I would love to see this thruth, just sceptical)

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#120
post #117

Hi, maybe not entirely relevant for this topic - but maybe you guys have any idea how to build and cheap system which will gather temperature wireleslly to one place. Ideally I'd like to have 2 sensors (one inside and other outside, with own batteries) which will send data to some central device. I have home server on MacMini - so WiFi could be option. Any ideas? I've always wanted to build something like this which…

How about running a http server on the mac exposing restful api, and using something like ESP8266 + temperature sensor, sending basic http requests to the server every minute or so? Should be much cheaper than arduino.
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