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Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#101

Broadcom must be delighted to have managed to find a use for their obsolete part from 2007 or so. Some accountant, somewhere, is happy :-) Probably a neat little board too, but unlikely to be $5. It's at £11.88 [0] ex VAT ex shipping at farnell UK (and can't be ordered anyway) -- that's more like nearly $20 these days. [0]: http://uk.farnell.com/raspberry-pi/raspberrypi-zero/sbc-zero...

€9.61 EUR from PiHut in the UK, shipped to Ireland.

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#102
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> Arduino Uno for $2 Are you sure about this? It doesn't sound... legal.

I meant Chinese clones. Arduino is Open Hardware, it's perfectly legal (that's kind of a point of Open Hardware movement). It's equivalent in form and function to the genuine Arduino made in Italy.

Oh okay okay, I see now. Yes, it's perfectly legal (as long as they don't use the Arduino (or Genuino) name).

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#103

I don't see anything about Ethernet/Wi-Fi. Am I missing something? I understand they had to cut some features to reduce the prize. But networking is such a fundamental requirement for these types of systems, you'd think that it would be the last feature to be excluded.

The networking on the other Pis is attached via USB. It's a very easy and obvious thing to drop.

Yeah I guess.

Still, I for one would be more than willing to pay a few extra bucks for a stripped-down version of the Pi with wireless included.

Actually, all I'm looking for in this type of machine is Linux, Wi-Fi and GPIO, in a reasonably compact format. Maybe the Pi isn't a good fit, since it is more about "teaching computing" than "building your IoT stuff".

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#104

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Sure if you fancy the risk of your house going up in flames because you bought some dodgy no-name power supply knocked out in a Chinese electronics sweatshop.

How big is that a risk, though? Serious question - because I'm really considering using Chinese USB power supply units as power sources for my home automation project. I've been using one of those units for the last 5 days with no visible problems - no overheating, no noise, etc.

I used to think that until I read these articles:

http://www.righto.com/2014/05/a-look-inside-ipad-chargers-pr...

http://www.righto.com/2012/03/inside-cheap-phone-charger-and...

Yes the articles are about fake and counterfeit power adapters but I expect these el-cheapo units have many of the same design and safety flaws due to cost cutting. Personally I'm taking no chances.

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#105

Broadcom must be delighted to have managed to find a use for their obsolete part from 2007 or so. Some accountant, somewhere, is happy :-) Probably a neat little board too, but unlikely to be $5. It's at £11.88 [0] ex VAT ex shipping at farnell UK (and can't be ordered anyway) -- that's more like nearly $20 these days. [0]: http://uk.farnell.com/raspberry-pi/raspberrypi-zero/sbc-zero...

It's £4 in the Pi Hut (disabling the extras): http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero

Nice one, they are not too extortionate on the 'essential kit' either.

That pi zero might become an alternative (for me) to the Olinuxino Micro [0] and the NanoPi [1] -- these are ARM9 based so even more dated than the Pi Zero; however I can boot these two in 0.7 seconds to an application, so they've been the first draft of quite a few professional projects for me...

[0]: https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/iMX233/iMX233-OLin... [1]: http://nanopi.org/NanoPi_Feature.html

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#106
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This is seriously impressive. While the Raspberry Pi is not the perfect hacker-friendly computer, it has done a lot of good. Some reasons off the top of my head: 1. Providing a low cost computer has given many people access to computers. Giving more people access to the web, email, an office suit, a programming environment AND giving people the ability of safely tinker without the fear of bricking an expensive device…

Are you sure about 1? Where are the maths please? In my little circle, the only people who have raspberry already have awesome computers and co. Curious about that.

How many people are there in your circle who want a computer but don't have one? Perhaps your crowd aren't the target for point 1.

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#108

Broadcom must be delighted to have managed to find a use for their obsolete part from 2007 or so. Some accountant, somewhere, is happy :-) Probably a neat little board too, but unlikely to be $5. It's at £11.88 [0] ex VAT ex shipping at farnell UK (and can't be ordered anyway) -- that's more like nearly $20 these days. [0]: http://uk.farnell.com/raspberry-pi/raspberrypi-zero/sbc-zero...

It's £4 in the Pi Hut (disabling the extras): http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero

Same on Pimoroni https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#109
post #86

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For that application it is better to get officially imported ones (eg. CE-marked in Europe), where at least the importer is vouching that the design meets minimum safety requirements. See http://www.righto.com/2012/10/a-dozen-usb-chargers-in-lab-ap... for some horror stories about crap USB chargers.

Mine[0] has CE on the back, but this is China, they print anything and everything on the back... [0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10632118

CE stands for Chinese Engineering :D

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

#110

This seems like an important moment for humans and computers. The cable to connect the computer now costs more than a 1GHZ computer. It feels a lot like a tipping point for something. http://makezine.com/2015/11/25/raspberry-pi-announces-5-comp...

The cable to connect the computer now has more markup than a 1 GHz computer. Micro-USB OTG and mini HDMI adapters go for £1 each shipped on eBay, and I think most of that price is shipping. (Likewise, they've omitted the 40-pin GPIO header unless you buy the £10 bundle with the "Essentials kit", compared to £4 for the Pi itself.)

Old, old business model - cut the headline price to the bone, make it back on cables.

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