Random thought that popped into my head when reading this (apart from the obvious...stockhappyness): I'm curious and know very little about this topic in general. How does an announcement like this affect 0-day prices? My guess is that IE11- 0-days should skyrocket for a bit but then fall because for a while they'll be really valuable and no patches will come but then eventually too many people migrate to the higher version?
Could 0-day prices actually be a decent way to forecast future adaption?
Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
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Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#122Thank goodness. IE 11 has enough warts and weirdness; having to deal with all the brokenness in IE 8 was driving my front-end colleagues to alcoholism... I have a beautiful dream sometimes, where I go to work, and I only have to care about supporting Chrome...
> I have a beautiful dream sometimes, where I go to work, and I only have to care about supporting Chrome... I understand the sentiment, but to be clear: Ideally we do not want any one vendor with a majority browser share. Otherwise someone will get complacent and we'll have a repeat of the dark times (IE6). Having multiple browser vendors is good for the web.
I picked Chrome because it is, as far as I know, the most standards-compliant browser in wide use at the moment. Firefox is quite good, Safari quite less good, and IE 11 and Edge are okay. Nobody really uses Opera... Depending on which set of stats you like, Chrome might already have a majority share.
I just wish that there was one unambiguous spec that they all supported. How many man-hours on aggregate have been wasted tweaking CSS and futzing with javascript to try to achieve identical results across browsers that have all these slight and not-so-slight differences of opinion about the HTML, CSS and ECMAScript specs?
A whole other world of pain is when you get into browsers that are embedded in GUI frameworks, or as extension points in other products. You really have no idea what they support, until you try something and see it is broken. Does this browserPanel object use the system version of IE, or some other version, or an old, forked version of WebKit, or some other Lovecraftian monstrosity?
Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#123Am I the only one who finds all the happy faces Microsoft have injected into the page a bit weird? It feels like they are trying to sell me some bad news but make me feel happy at the same time. Don't get me wrong - I think it's a good move to discontinue support for older IE versions... There is just something with all the smiling and laughing faces all over the page that make all my alarms go off
The fake-grin people in the pictures are nurses and technicians from hospitals still stuck on IE6 because their late 1990s medical imaging ActiveX controls are bug-for-bug compatible with that wonderful piece of software. Behind their grins are the questions, "what now?" or maybe even "where do I want to go today." Their IT krewes are wondering, "how am I going to get the CFO to approve an upgrade to the GE medical i…
> And their info security guy
Who? Oh, that guy? We let him go six years ago when we couldn't figure out what he did.
Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#124An unfortunate datapoint: for one of our products I'm still seeing >25% users on IE8. This is a (primarily UK) product most of whose users are on internal bank networks. It's come down from about 40% 2 years ago, so it's heading in the right direction - but I'm not sure I see it going away any time soon. There's huge organizational inertia inside these banks around IT systems - if we want to serve them, we need to su…
Same story for me. I run an open source project used by hospitals and I think I'm stuck supporting IE8 for another year or two.
Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#125An unfortunate datapoint: for one of our products I'm still seeing >25% users on IE8. This is a (primarily UK) product most of whose users are on internal bank networks. It's come down from about 40% 2 years ago, so it's heading in the right direction - but I'm not sure I see it going away any time soon. There's huge organizational inertia inside these banks around IT systems - if we want to serve them, we need to su…
They are probably XP users. You can create a small notification on top of your website, notifying them that they should move to Firefox or Chrome because their browser is not safe anymore...
Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#126Am I the only one who finds all the happy faces Microsoft have injected into the page a bit weird? It feels like they are trying to sell me some bad news but make me feel happy at the same time. Don't get me wrong - I think it's a good move to discontinue support for older IE versions... There is just something with all the smiling and laughing faces all over the page that make all my alarms go off
When I read your comment, I thought they had inserted happy smileys in their text. It made me curious enough to open the page and see the regular marketing faces for Microsoft. That was a bit of a bummer. It would have made my day to see real smileys on that page! ;-)
Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#127Am I the only one who finds all the happy faces Microsoft have injected into the page a bit weird? It feels like they are trying to sell me some bad news but make me feel happy at the same time. Don't get me wrong - I think it's a good move to discontinue support for older IE versions... There is just something with all the smiling and laughing faces all over the page that make all my alarms go off
:-)
Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#128Are they just going to do what they did with XP and extend support to those that have the cash?
Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#129An unfortunate datapoint: for one of our products I'm still seeing >25% users on IE8. This is a (primarily UK) product most of whose users are on internal bank networks. It's come down from about 40% 2 years ago, so it's heading in the right direction - but I'm not sure I see it going away any time soon. There's huge organizational inertia inside these banks around IT systems - if we want to serve them, we need to su…
They are probably XP users. You can create a small notification on top of your website, notifying them that they should move to Firefox or Chrome because their browser is not safe anymore...
Chrome support for XP ends at the end of the year.
http://techcrunch.com/2015/04/16/google-will-still-support-c...
Firefox (as far as I can tell) still supports XP SP2, but who knows for how long.
Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#130Am I the only one who finds all the happy faces Microsoft have injected into the page a bit weird? It feels like they are trying to sell me some bad news but make me feel happy at the same time. Don't get me wrong - I think it's a good move to discontinue support for older IE versions... There is just something with all the smiling and laughing faces all over the page that make all my alarms go off
Reminds me of this picture
http://www.lucasthenomad.com/images/cache/img/5d/5d8664cf92e...
