Oh... And we must support IE 8 ¬¬
Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
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Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#102Thank goodness. IE 11 has enough warts and weirdness; having to deal with all the brokenness in IE 8 was driving my front-end colleagues to alcoholism... I have a beautiful dream sometimes, where I go to work, and I only have to care about supporting Chrome...
> I have a beautiful dream sometimes, where I go to work, and I only have to care about supporting Chrome... I understand the sentiment, but to be clear: Ideally we do not want any one vendor with a majority browser share. Otherwise someone will get complacent and we'll have a repeat of the dark times (IE6). Having multiple browser vendors is good for the web.
Ideally we want to support an unambiguous spec, and if a browser has opinions about it let the user suffer until they switch with something more conformant
I can dream, right?
Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#103Am I the only one who finds all the happy faces Microsoft have injected into the page a bit weird? It feels like they are trying to sell me some bad news but make me feel happy at the same time. Don't get me wrong - I think it's a good move to discontinue support for older IE versions... There is just something with all the smiling and laughing faces all over the page that make all my alarms go off
Believe it or not, that's a huge improvement compared to Microsoft's past marketing endeavors. Checkout the photoshopped freaks they used for VS2008 http://www.secretgeek.net/vs2008_bugeye
Haha, oh my god--I remember having taken a screenshot of that guy and shared it with the guys who worked with me.
Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I have a beautiful dream sometimes, where I go to work, and I only have to care about supporting Chrome... I understand the sentiment, but to be clear: Ideally we do not want any one vendor with a majority browser share. Otherwise someone will get complacent and we'll have a repeat of the dark times (IE6). Having multiple browser vendors is good for the web.
In this case Apple does not agree. They force everybody to use their rendering engine on iOS. To be clear, I do not condone this practice.
especially since their render engine is opinionated about how full-screen should work and other weirdness in managing pseudo elements and transform parents in layouts (i.e. anchor for relative is parent of the element they're attached not the element they're attached to)
Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#105Am I the only one who finds all the happy faces Microsoft have injected into the page a bit weird? It feels like they are trying to sell me some bad news but make me feel happy at the same time. Don't get me wrong - I think it's a good move to discontinue support for older IE versions... There is just something with all the smiling and laughing faces all over the page that make all my alarms go off
That's almost comically standard stock image use, I haven't seen this outside of parodies in quite a while!
Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#106We still have customers with IE6. Risk adverse institutions like airports really don't want to upgrade things.
I believe those are closed systems not connected to the internet. It still would be better to upgrade them (for easier access to spare parts, knowledge, etc). Otherwise they end up like this French airport which was shut down just few weeks ago because their Windows 3.1 failed. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10559687
By the way. Windows 3.1 is just a fancy GUI for MS DOS :P
Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#107The document makes things wildly unclear as to which versions of IE are actually supported by Microsoft.
In practical terms it's still IE9 and IE11 for a while (so far as I can tell)?
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle#gp/Microsoft-I...
I'm sure there is still a load of Windows Vista SP2 machines around...
Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#108Thank goodness. IE 11 has enough warts and weirdness; having to deal with all the brokenness in IE 8 was driving my front-end colleagues to alcoholism... I have a beautiful dream sometimes, where I go to work, and I only have to care about supporting Chrome...
> I have a beautiful dream sometimes, where I go to work, and I only have to care about supporting Chrome...
Yes I also long for the return of the IE6 days when only one browser mattered and what it did was law. Not.
Seriously folks we've already done software monopolies (not just in browsers either), it always ends up in tears. If a browser is terrible refuse to support it or ask for extra time/money for its support, but do not condone, suggest or recommend browser monopoly.
Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#109ie ,be well.edge,goodbye.
Re: Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ends on January 12, 2016
#110Our front-end team welcomes this news, but I still think a non-trivial amount enterprises who do their own security work will still be using IE 8 into 2017.