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We still have customers with IE6. Risk adverse institutions like airports really don't want to upgrade things.
I'd say they are not very risk averse if they are still using IE6. In fact, I'd say they are living on the edge. I hope the CTO has a really nice golden parachute because they will need it when (and not if) the proverbial poop hits the proverbial fan.
Am I the only one who finds all the happy faces Microsoft have injected into the page a bit weird? It feels like they are trying to sell me some bad news but make me feel happy at the same time. Don't get me wrong - I think it's a good move to discontinue support for older IE versions... There is just something with all the smiling and laughing faces all over the page that make all my alarms go off
Am I the only one who finds all the happy faces Microsoft have injected into the page a bit weird? It feels like they are trying to sell me some bad news but make me feel happy at the same time. Don't get me wrong - I think it's a good move to discontinue support for older IE versions... There is just something with all the smiling and laughing faces all over the page that make all my alarms go off
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I'd say they are not very risk averse if they are still using IE6. In fact, I'd say they are living on the edge. I hope the CTO has a really nice golden parachute because they will need it when (and not if) the proverbial poop hits the proverbial fan.
I hope they _don't_ have a golden parachute
We still have customers with IE6. Risk adverse institutions like airports really don't want to upgrade things.
There are a lot of businesses that use older versions of Windows and use Internet Explorer as their default web browser and use group policy from a Windows Server to prevent the install of a third part web browser. Forcing everyone to use IE. They will be vulnerable to attacks because of this and they will refuse to pay money to upgrade from XP or Vista to go to Windows 10. It will be because their business software…
In many cases we are talking about organizations using software that requires not just an obsolete internet explorer version, but an ancient one. There have been many years to assess and fix this problem, and just because companies stuck their heads in the sand and expected it would always be someone else's problem. I have little pity for the companies, but I feel deeply for the IT employees that will have to deal wi…
It's all very well saying this now, but I wouldn't be surprised if at the time these technologies were seen as JavaScript is now. I remember Adobe Air was when it came out...
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Yeah... but I kinda wouldn't mind if they were all using the same open source rendering engine under the hood.
... But that's exactly what they're saying we DON'T want. A lot of browsers re-used IE 6's rendering engine because it had a monopoly. That only made the situation worse. A browser's rendering engine is the ONLY part that matters, and if anyone has a monopoly that is "bad" because competition helps innovation. Each rendering engine winds up, for good and bad, with a small group of people deciding what features do and…
Active X would like to disagree with you. We're currently dealing with a massive (revenue/company) product that only runs under IE still uses Active X.
I don't think a common rendering engine is at all a bad thing. Maybe two to keep them honest. But blink + webkit + trident (?) + Gecko (?) seem like wasted engineering talent.
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Yeah... but I kinda wouldn't mind if they were all using the same open source rendering engine under the hood.
... But that's exactly what they're saying we DON'T want. A lot of browsers re-used IE 6's rendering engine because it had a monopoly. That only made the situation worse. A browser's rendering engine is the ONLY part that matters, and if anyone has a monopoly that is "bad" because competition helps innovation. Each rendering engine winds up, for good and bad, with a small group of people deciding what features do and…
> For example, if Google controlled the web's primary rendering engine do you think Do Not Track would be in it?
Isn't Do Not Track a pretty good example for a browser feature that is independent of the rendering engine?
Thank goodness. IE 11 has enough warts and weirdness; having to deal with all the brokenness in IE 8 was driving my front-end colleagues to alcoholism... I have a beautiful dream sometimes, where I go to work, and I only have to care about supporting Chrome...
IE11 has an IE7 compatibility mode so line-of-business apps are going to be targeting IE7 for a long time to come. One of my employer's clients is only now willing to pay to upgrade from IE5.5 rendering on IE8 to IE7 on 11.
Of course this doesn't change anything for the 70% of our users who are still on XP and Vista. At best we get IE9, at worst IE8
You should start nudging people to use alternative browsers. I'd suggest Mozilla Firefox. You do not need administrative privileges to use Mozilla Firefox and with the extended support releases, there is no reason why anything other than legacy internal services (running on internal network) should use Internet Explorer at all. Assuming your application does not need IE specific features, what are some reasons that p…