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Re: EC2 Dedicated Hosts

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Post by andrewguenther »

jwrigh13 wrote: post #2

Now how long will it take for Amazon to release a dedicated host marketplace where you can sell unused space on your dedicated hosts?

Ah yes, we run all of our services on dedicated NSA machines we leased from AWS!

This would be a security and privacy nightmare.

Re: EC2 Dedicated Hosts

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Post by gtaylor »

andrewstuart2 wrote: post #6

Man, I'd really like to just see bare metal from them. To me that was part of the allure of containers -- so much more efficient than multiple VMs and yet you get a lot of similar benefits, as long as you don't mind some security tradeoffs. Running ECS is cool and all, and I know they do some container-specific VM optimizations, but I still know I'm running a kernel on a kernel, even if my VMs happen to share a host.…

Agreed. But maybe that's a later step in the roadmap. Let's hope!

Re: EC2 Dedicated Hosts

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Post by cstejerean »

fpp wrote: post #26
idlewords wrote: post #5

All the advantages of a dedicated server without the hassle of saving tons of money.

Their example dedicated host adds up to $2'226 per month - had a quick calc on the retail HW cost for a machine like this - should not be more than $6.5k with 2 * E5-2670 v3 12 cores. What I understand so far - it is physically bundling a fixed amount of virtual machines to a physical host - in the example "dedicated host" 22 * m4.large. Bundling your virtual machine to one or a series of physical hosts / on the same…

You are looking at their on-demand rates, which means no commitment. You can do this for a month or even a few days. If you know you will need infra for 1 year or more you can use reserved rates. Right now those are not yet publicly available for Dedicated Instances, although the post mentions you can contact them if you want early access. With reserved rates the price should be 70% less for a 3 year commitment (speculating based on the post). A huge difference.

Re: EC2 Dedicated Hosts

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Post by omarforgotpwd »

andrewstuart2 wrote: post #6

Man, I'd really like to just see bare metal from them. To me that was part of the allure of containers -- so much more efficient than multiple VMs and yet you get a lot of similar benefits, as long as you don't mind some security tradeoffs. Running ECS is cool and all, and I know they do some container-specific VM optimizations, but I still know I'm running a kernel on a kernel, even if my VMs happen to share a host.…

I'm sure Amazon would love it too (think about how much money they could save / make) but there are a lot of security concerns that need to be addressed. Running code in a virtualized kernel is a lot more secure than running in the real kernel with permissions limited. Theoretically an exploit could allow someone to take over the machine, whereas if the machine is virtualized it's much harder to take over the host.

Re: EC2 Dedicated Hosts

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Post by vosper »

fpp wrote: post #26
idlewords wrote: post #5

All the advantages of a dedicated server without the hassle of saving tons of money.

Their example dedicated host adds up to $2'226 per month - had a quick calc on the retail HW cost for a machine like this - should not be more than $6.5k with 2 * E5-2670 v3 12 cores. What I understand so far - it is physically bundling a fixed amount of virtual machines to a physical host - in the example "dedicated host" 22 * m4.large. Bundling your virtual machine to one or a series of physical hosts / on the same…

Except, of course, that for anything important you'll want redundancy and failover in the face of hardware failure, so you'll need two of those $6.5k servers.

Re: EC2 Dedicated Hosts

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Post by allendoerfer »

Thanks to the amazing innovation at Amazon, 2016 will be the year, we can finally have a real computer in a datacenter, where we can run all our JavaScript code on, instead of of having to use an anonymous cloud service.

Re: EC2 Dedicated Hosts

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Post by jeffbarr »

ludbb wrote: post #20

Are the hardware specs available somewhere? Is it possible I'm confusing this with an interface for launching EC2 instances at a premium disguised as being actual dedicated hardware?

Each Dedicated Host is home to a specific number of EC2 instances.

Check out the EC2 instance types (https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/) to learn more.

Re: EC2 Dedicated Hosts

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Post by dylz »

yaniksilver wrote: post #32

How is this different from Cloudways Amazon offering? http://www.cloudways.com/en/amazon-cloud-hosting.php

For one thing, Amazon isn't spamming the crap out of multiple forums (Webhostingtalk, Lowendtalk, ...) with fake shill reviews.

And you not disclosing your connection considering 90% of your submission history is cloudways makes it even better.

And that you're one of the fake-review-shill spammers too.[0]

[0] http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/65774/is-there-any-serv...

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