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Dell shipping laptop with rogue self-signed root CA

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Re: Dell shipping laptop with rogue self-signed root CA

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[1] suggests that this can be used for code signing, but not to MITM network requests, which makes it bad in a different way to superfish. [1] https://np.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/3twmfv/dell_ship...

Right, but the private key is also included(!), so anyone can now sign code that will be trusted by these computers.

Edit: Confirmed can issue ssl certs. https://mobile.twitter.com/_xpn_/status/668745489823768576

Re: Dell shipping laptop with rogue self-signed root CA

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Seems like a way to bypass signed drivers. Sending drivers to Microsoft for signing takes a few weeks and costs money. I bet this certificate was used on prototypes, but was not removed from final version for some reason.

Source: I worked for hardware vendor and wrote windows drivers.

Re: Dell shipping laptop with rogue self-signed root CA

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post #5

Seems like a way to bypass signed drivers. Sending drivers to Microsoft for signing takes a few weeks and costs money. I bet this certificate was used on prototypes, but was not removed from final version for some reason. Source: I worked for hardware vendor and wrote windows drivers.

I thought you could get a code signing cert from MS, but the WHQL qualification is what involves the latter phase?

Re: Dell shipping laptop with rogue self-signed root CA

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post #5

Seems like a way to bypass signed drivers. Sending drivers to Microsoft for signing takes a few weeks and costs money. I bet this certificate was used on prototypes, but was not removed from final version for some reason. Source: I worked for hardware vendor and wrote windows drivers.

I thought you could get a code signing cert from MS, but the WHQL qualification is what involves the latter phase?

I am not sure about that, we were a small shop. Dell is bigger, but maybe has subcontractors.

Re: Dell shipping laptop with rogue self-signed root CA

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[1] suggests that this can be used for code signing, but not to MITM network requests, which makes it bad in a different way to superfish. [1] https://np.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/3twmfv/dell_ship...

That person was mistaken. Keep reading the thread. Several people have already created website certificates that validate in browsers using the private key provided.
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