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The End of the Internet Dream

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Re: The End of the Internet Dream

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Post by Mimu »

pspace wrote: post #100

The internet dream is almost here! Patents and IP have lost their bite compared to the 80's (continuing to do so) and piracy is easier than ever. More countries are participating in the global conversation than ever before. Enhancements in security and privacy are evident and improving (albeit slowly). The internet is becoming a lot less like TV and will continue to do so. People care more about commenting and creati…

The TV analogy is more about people are not using internet but only Facebook and Google. I think it's more that way than the consuming / creating angle.

Re: The End of the Internet Dream

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Post by cinquemb »

Eupolemos wrote: post #86
darkr wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. Given the track record of the various 3 letter agencies over the past 50 years; any hacker who didn't think, prior to the Snowden leaks, that the NSA had cast a far-reaching net was naive in the extreme.

To some extent true, but the thing is that you couldn't say it out loud in public without being labelled a conspiracy theorist by the masses. The masses are pretty important in discussions about what kind of society we ultimately want.

>The masses are pretty important in discussions about what kind of society we ultimately want.

This might be true, while it being true that the masses are largely irrelevant at implementing the societies that we have and live under… hence why organizations with the resources and power, can tend to drive what the masses can see and withhold things from a public that is all too willing to accept things at face value.

Re: The End of the Internet Dream

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Post by surge »

Right now the biggest threat I find is the lack of options in terms of ISP for most people, and somewhat mass surveillance which will likely be used for profit rather than prevention of illegal activity. ISP's that are creating arbitrary data caps, filtering/throttling or modifying content as it comes in, and little is being done by the FCC to stop it, these are the most dangerous trends.

Beyond that encryption, etc has allowed us more freedom.

Re: The End of the Internet Dream

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Post by loginusername »

ryandrake wrote: post #119
TeMPOraL wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But also, there aren't many 30 dollars apps worth buying! It's a weird deadlock. Most app are either crap and free with ads, crap and "free" w/ in-app payments, crap and for $1 or crap and terribly overpriced. For some weird reason, there's little of good development going on.

The weird reason is that customers are totally fine with buying and using crap. Until that changes, there will be no incentive for doing good development.

Yes.

Re: The End of the Internet Dream

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Post by whatok »

necessity wrote: post #44

Again with this "there aren't as many women in computing/politics/NASCAR/mining industry as there should be" bullshit. I'll just paste previous comments because it's always the same irrational shit people like to vomit to get an audience. Why are there so few male manicures? Why so few male babysitters? Why so few female NASCAR drivers? Why so few female in the army? Why so few male in the wedding dress business? We…

thank you for the video link. just bought his recent book

Re: The End of the Internet Dream

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Post by ashark »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #75
SpaghettiCat wrote: post #65

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> Satisfying someone's needs doesn't justify anything. Not all needs are meant to be satisfied - especially if they conflict with the needs of others, whether directly or by generating externalities. What cases are you talking about? If a consumer pays for something, they want it. What is the evil of supplying a consumer with what they want? If they don't want it they don't have to buy it. If they don't like it they…

First of all, the consumer and the supplier do not form a closed system (regardless of what some ideologies would want one to believe). You have to account for the effects supplying a customer with something has on the third parties. Those are the externalities I've mentioned, and even Wikipedia has a lot of examples. Secondly, you have to take a look at the aggregate effects. So for instance I may need a new, shitti…

I like that page, and also the Non-Libertarian FAQ[1] linked on it, which saves me summing up my feelings on the topic.

I'd still love a good dissenting take on it. The one linked near the bottom is awful.

[1] http://raikoth.net/libertarian.html

[EDIT] Now includes the link!

Re: The End of the Internet Dream

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Post by parasubvert »

anon1385 wrote: post #158
k__ wrote: post #142

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If you look into our biggest open platform today, the web, you see that we have almost won. We got the whole power of our PCs sand-boxed and mostly standardized at our fingertips with ECMAScript, HTTP and company. Most of the old proprietary demons are defeated with so many companies switching from native to "the web". But with the rise of iOS and Android, new problems are rising. And if you look at the better perfor…

The web has done more to centralise computing and take it out of the hands of ordinary people than any other technology. People don't even control their own data anymore, never mind having control over the software they run. It's hard to see that as a win.

The web has done more to decentralize networked computing than any other technology, because the web is basically decentralized. Only the agreements (IETF and W3C) are somewhat centralized, but even then we are seeing a proliferation of REST APIs to encourage decentralized data management. These usually aren't exactly "RESTful" of course because we are so busy with our own startups we aren't really working towards interop as a priority.

The only inherent reason we have popular centralized services is that there is limited economic incentives of funding or adhering to a decentralized social (or business, or health, ...) network standard - the Web would support it, but we've got to WANT to build the agreements to make it work.

Tl;dr the Read side of the web is decentralized; the Write Side of the Web is currently an oligarchy but not permanently so.

Re: The End of the Internet Dream

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Post by LordKano »

pspace wrote: post #100

The internet dream is almost here! Patents and IP have lost their bite compared to the 80's (continuing to do so) and piracy is easier than ever. More countries are participating in the global conversation than ever before. Enhancements in security and privacy are evident and improving (albeit slowly). The internet is becoming a lot less like TV and will continue to do so. People care more about commenting and creati…

The way I see it, piracy was easier 12 or so years ago.

The rise of P2P, in the days before regulatory sanctions and when user tracking was less sophisticated, you could get nearly anything on P2P.

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