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you're incredibly overconfident. I'll leave it at that. good luck.
confidence comes from ability to recognize the facts from BS and fallacy.
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Re: Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It
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That's not intended as flamebait. I think it's a legitimate question. What if a religion is the root cause of this behavior? What are the appropriate steps to take at that point? I'm not condemning Islam necessarily and certainly not Muslims but I think we need to stop dancing around and confront the issue of what an ideology is teaching. Is it appropriate for our world? If it isn't what do we do about it?
> If it isn't what do we do about it? I don't think there's anything new to understand here. Outlaw it where we can, conduct diplomacy to try to get countries that don't outlaw it to outlaw it. War is a last-ditch option, one that I don't think should be off the table, but we need to go into it clear-headed with a sane understanding of what we can and cannot accomplish. The Middle East is practically defined by war.…
> The Middle East is practically defined by war.
Which was brought by the Western nations since WWI.
Re: Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It
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Maybe you're right and I'm not smart enough. But 1% of 1.7 million students who went Konkoor the year I went to is still a lot more than capacity of all universities in Iran. So your statement is incorrect. We didn't "all" get free education
you even cannot read properly,no wonder you didn't get accepted in Concour (Concour is a french word, you can learn this one too), I wrote: "we all get free or almost free or very cheap", read again so you learn to read correctly and you can comment again. we were 5 kids in family and my father had very modest income, me and my brother went to free university and 3 of my sisters went to Azad university and my father…
1. It's not decent education.
2. It's the same here in the U.S. With all the nagging cost of education is not that high. I'm paying for my wife college.
3. You are attacking me for no reason. Once you called me dumb. But you know how the entry exam works, it is certainly not the best system for pickup up the most talented people. I'm not saying I'm talented or anything but your basis of judgment is wrong
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What I understand is that Saudi is already home to ~1 million Syrians and the government says they have granted residency visas to 500K more since 2011 -- not as refugees, but as residents. I can't say for certain if they are refusing more refugees or why. But I would guess that the political consequences for such a shift in demographics would be too complicated for the (rather rigid) system of government in Saudi to…
Ihis is UNHCR report for end of 2011 http://www.unhcr.org/516286589.html , I don't see the name of Saudi Arabia in list of popular refugee hosting countries, But I see Iran as one of top to refugee hosting countries, Iran is actually one of top two since many years ago, due to hosting Iraqis and Afghanis, http://www.unhcr.org/516286589.html , you can see more of stats for other years too
This huffpost explains the discrepancy (and how western media organisations choose to ignore the reasons in their self-absorbed vilification and chest-thumping) :
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anhvinh-doanvo/europes-crisis-...
" The UNHCR counts refugees by noting only those "persons recognized as refugees under the 1951 UN Convention/1967 Protocol, the 1969 OAU Convention, in accordance with the UNHCR Statute, persons granted a complementary form of protection and those granted temporary protection." Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, and the UAE are not parties to any of the UN protocols on refugees, and so through this technicality, they, along with most of their refugees, are excluded from many refugee counting mechanisms."
"With Saudi Arabia's non-signatory status, the Syrians residing in Saudi Arabia are classified as "Arab brothers and sisters in distress" instead of refugees covered by UN treaties"
"The government itself of Saudi Arabia has stated that it has, over the past five years since the start of the conflict hosted 2.5 million refugees."
Re: Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It
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you even cannot read properly,no wonder you didn't get accepted in Concour (Concour is a french word, you can learn this one too), I wrote: "we all get free or almost free or very cheap", read again so you learn to read correctly and you can comment again. we were 5 kids in family and my father had very modest income, me and my brother went to free university and 3 of my sisters went to Azad university and my father…
1. It's not decent education. 2. It's the same here in the U.S. With all the nagging cost of education is not that high. I'm paying for my wife college. 3. You are attacking me for no reason. Once you called me dumb. But you know how the entry exam works, it is certainly not the best system for pickup up the most talented people. I'm not saying I'm talented or anything but your basis of judgment is wrong
I will leave at here, I didn't call you dumb, you just may be didn't think enough, I looked at your submissions, it seems you are smart enough and had decent education ( i guess in iran ) :)
Re: Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It
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1. It's not decent education. 2. It's the same here in the U.S. With all the nagging cost of education is not that high. I'm paying for my wife college. 3. You are attacking me for no reason. Once you called me dumb. But you know how the entry exam works, it is certainly not the best system for pickup up the most talented people. I'm not saying I'm talented or anything but your basis of judgment is wrong
I will leave at here, I didn't call you dumb, you just may be didn't think enough, I looked at your submissions, it seems you are smart enough and had decent education ( i guess in iran ) :)
Nope, as I said Azad university sucks balls. I didn't finish school there. I came to the U.S., got some real education and started working for a company that you use it's products everyday. But it's not about me. I might be the dumbest person on planet
Back to your original point in which you suggested we have decent education for cheap of free in Iran. I still disagree with you. There is only a handful of schools (Sharif and maybe Tehran) with decent teachers and some decade old equipments, other than that most of schools in Iran are inefficient and I consider them a waste of time. Azad university is more like a religious school than an art and science college. So no, we don't have "free or cheap" "decent education" "for everyone". If we had we wouldn't have such terrible society. You went to a "decent" school and living in Canada. You're considered "elite" or counted in brain drain stats! Yet, you are attacking people on internet for no reason. That's why I'm saying we have a terrible society.
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I will leave at here, I didn't call you dumb, you just may be didn't think enough, I looked at your submissions, it seems you are smart enough and had decent education ( i guess in iran ) :)
Nope, as I said Azad university sucks balls. I didn't finish school there. I came to the U.S., got some real education and started working for a company that you use it's products everyday. But it's not about me. I might be the dumbest person on planet Back to your original point in which you suggested we have decent education for cheap of free in Iran. I still disagree with you. There is only a handful of schools (S…
I didn't attack anyone, I only said you were not possibly smart enough to pass the entrance exam, I didn't pass it either on first attempt, I managed to get into decent school on second try. Azad wasn't very good university at first it was kinda like a high school at the beginning ( my high school use to be Azad branch in after hours !!!) , I have seen it grown since its inception, now is good enough on main branches in big cities, in terms of equipments even with sanctions we had good stuff, for sure not as Ivy league universities in US, but good. yes I am living in Canada, I also lived in 4 other countries and I am still proud of whatever my country provided for me, with education that I had in Iran, and my hard work today I work for one of top 3 software makers in world.I am by no means elite but may be in brain drain stats ;). since you are in US go to any decent US university's engineering department and see how many Iranian educated boys and girls study there, and how many of them actually finished their BS or MSc in Iran.
here in Canada/Quebec in one of the universities 70% of Phd students are Iranian (official stat by university itself). they must have had decent education to get accepted for continuing higher education, i guess, what do you think?. for you information my wife also study Phd in McGill, she finished her Msc and BS in Iran. education in Iran is way more decent than many other countries and is cheap or free. today they don't have a big competition to get into universities as there many more seats available.we don't have terrible society we only have terrible individuals which could possibly include myself too. so let's fix ourselves first.
Re: Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It
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Nope, as I said Azad university sucks balls. I didn't finish school there. I came to the U.S., got some real education and started working for a company that you use it's products everyday. But it's not about me. I might be the dumbest person on planet Back to your original point in which you suggested we have decent education for cheap of free in Iran. I still disagree with you. There is only a handful of schools (S…
I didn't attack anyone, I only said you were not possibly smart enough to pass the entrance exam, I didn't pass it either on first attempt, I managed to get into decent school on second try. Azad wasn't very good university at first it was kinda like a high school at the beginning ( my high school use to be Azad branch in after hours !!!) , I have seen it grown since its inception, now is good enough on main branches…
On HN, telling someone that they can't read properly or that they weren't smart enough to pass an exam do count as personal attacks. We ban accounts for doing this, so please don't do this again.
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Re: Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It
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I didn't attack anyone, I only said you were not possibly smart enough to pass the entrance exam, I didn't pass it either on first attempt, I managed to get into decent school on second try. Azad wasn't very good university at first it was kinda like a high school at the beginning ( my high school use to be Azad branch in after hours !!!) , I have seen it grown since its inception, now is good enough on main branches…
On HN, telling someone that they can't read properly or that they weren't smart enough to pass an exam do count as personal attacks. We ban accounts for doing this, so please don't do this again. To be a good contributor to this site it's best to make sure you've read the following: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
I said he cannot read, because he didn't read, I will say it as long as someone reads my writings partially and not complete.I said he was not possibly smart enough as Iran's free university entrance exam was to the most degree IQ test ( at least in my days ) I failed myself for first time. you can go ahead and ban my account now.
Re: Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It
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On HN, telling someone that they can't read properly or that they weren't smart enough to pass an exam do count as personal attacks. We ban accounts for doing this, so please don't do this again. To be a good contributor to this site it's best to make sure you've read the following: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
I said he cannot read, because he didn't read, I will say it as long as someone reads my writings partially and not complete.I said he was not possibly smart enough as Iran's free university entrance exam was to the most degree IQ test ( at least in my days ) I failed myself for first time. you can go ahead and ban my account now.
You posted "you even cannot read properly" in a comment upthread.
We don't want to ban you! Your comments indicate a perspective that doesn't often show up here. Diverse perspectives are good for HN. But to participate effectively, you need to learn and follow the local conventions, and also understand that HN has rules, the foremost of which is civility.
I don't think you were intentionally uncivil. I do think you were unintentionally uncivil. That's nowhere near as bad, but still needs correcting.