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Ask HN: I made $24k over the last month. Now what?

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Re: Ask HN: I made $24k over the last month. Now what?

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"What I know how to do best is the app store" Set yourself up as an _angel investor for iPhone apps_. Like a mini-mini-mini YCombinator. Based on your experience, you should be very good at evaluating an individual's chances of creating a successful app. Solicit pitches (HN would be a great source) and make 5 small investments of $5k each. If you make another $25k next month, do another 5 investments. Rinse and repea…

Actually, there is one thing I can do perfectly now: I can listen to an app idea and tell you how much money it will make. If I knew developer who needed 5k to make apps, I'd def invest in them. I don't know any however, the ones I know don't need 5k.

Any tips on evaluating app ideas?

Re: Ask HN: I made $24k over the last month. Now what?

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post #91

"What I know how to do best is the app store" Set yourself up as an _angel investor for iPhone apps_. Like a mini-mini-mini YCombinator. Based on your experience, you should be very good at evaluating an individual's chances of creating a successful app. Solicit pitches (HN would be a great source) and make 5 small investments of $5k each. If you make another $25k next month, do another 5 investments. Rinse and repea…

Actually, there is one thing I can do perfectly now: I can listen to an app idea and tell you how much money it will make. If I knew developer who needed 5k to make apps, I'd def invest in them. I don't know any however, the ones I know don't need 5k.

Turn this into a service.

Re: Ask HN: I made $24k over the last month. Now what?

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post #49

Build a business using it. Pithy version: 1. Look for a niche that hang around online, but don't know much about web stuff. Mumsy things, crafts... anything that's a tightly knit niche 2. Find their forums/blogs etc, and ask them what would make their lives easier? What would be the one thing that would be awesome that they want. 3. Build it. Possibly hire people to help you 4. Have a free, lightly crippled version (…

I'd love to try your advice but I've never been able to find such a niche. Everytime I try to think of one, I get "niche block". Any ideas?

Got a passion? Helps if you have a real interest in an idea. I've found that first-round attempts I've made at sites have been successful (got a few sites that took very little time to set up, but now make $4k/mo for zero effort), but attempts to replicate that have failed (have a few more sites that barely cover their domain registration costs!). Without the passion, you would need to be very disciplined, I suspect.

Here's something I just tried to see if it might help someone looking for a niche (since almost all are massively saturated, at least at first glance):

Hit Dmoz, control-click five sections on the front page. For each tab that's opened, choose a sub-sub-cat pretty quickly (maybe don't overthink your choices, but don't necessarily go for the largest option). If necessary, choose again on the next level. That should give you five things to look into further. I ended up with:

  http://www.dmoz.org/Home/Family/Runaways/
  http://www.dmoz.org/Reference/Knots/Fishing/
  http://www.dmoz.org/Reference/Education/Instructional_Technology/Organizations/
  http://www.dmoz.org/Health/Senior_Health/Fitness/
  http://www.dmoz.org/Shopping/Food/Smoked/
Never know what any of these might turn up. Lack of decent, dedicated blogs, need for small widgets, simple calculators/tools, etc. With anything though, unless you have confidence in your content or idea, I would keep it quick and simple and not invest too heavily.

Re: Ask HN: I made $24k over the last month. Now what?

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Go read The Millionaire Next Door: http://www.amazon.com/Millionaire-Next-Door-Thomas-Stanley/d... , which ought to be mandatory reading for anyone.

What do I do with the money?

Invest it in stocks or bonds.

How do I invest it in making more money quickly?

You don't. That's the problem: there is no way to reliably do this. In fact, there's probably no way to _unreliably_ do this either. At the moment, bank savings accounts and CDs are paying next to nothing.

As The Millionaire Next Door shows, most people who we might think of as "rich" don't actually get that way by being sports stars, or inheriting money, or TV, or whatever: they get that way by spending less than they make and saving as much as they can, usually in the form of investing in index funds.

Re: Ask HN: I made $24k over the last month. Now what?

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post #148
post #5

First, congratulations; that's a pretty impressive feat on the app store. Have you thought about taking some of the income and using it to hire other developers to increase the number of apps that you've got being developed at once? It seems like you know what works and doesn't work on the app store, so it would probably make sense to start trying to make your efforts scale up.

Yeah, why invest in some company you don't know anything about (stock market), if you can invest in yourself?

You shouldn't ever invest in a company you know nothing about. If you're investing in the stock market you should do you research into the company before buying in.

Re: Ask HN: I made $24k over the last month. Now what?

#189

Seriously what ericb said, milk the app store and advertise your apps online if you can, keep it going but the investment climate is lame everywhere. I am now in the same situation where I had 30k cash for the first time with no debt and I essentially put it in a safety deposit box at the bank so I won't spend it. If you look at money market, CD's etc, they all stink right now so just lock it up. If you have not boug…

Do not buy a house right now unless you really understand your local market and it's very different than the national average. Home prices are going to drop like a rock this Spring.

What makes you say that?

Re: Ask HN: I made $24k over the last month. Now what?

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post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, there is one thing I can do perfectly now: I can listen to an app idea and tell you how much money it will make. If I knew developer who needed 5k to make apps, I'd def invest in them. I don't know any however, the ones I know don't need 5k.

Any tips on evaluating app ideas?

It's a complicated collection of things, but a lot of it boils down to: how many people will get what the app does from the title and the icon. And also, will your consumers search for the app?

For example, if I had an app called "Table Tennis" it will make money. If I had an app called "River" it is less likely to make money, unless strongly externally marketed. First app has search right from release, and everyone gets it instantly. Second app says nothing from the name and nobody searches app store for "river".

You need a constant low source of users for word of mouth to work.

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