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Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Post by jkot »

EdiX wrote: post #239
Joeri wrote: post #202

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Microsoft software was not 'utter crap'. Word won by virtue of being better than WordPerfect. Excel won by being better than lotus. IE 5 was a better browser than Netscape 4, though in that case its superiority was not why it won. Even in the windows vs mac contest windows XP was a much better OS than the contemporary Mac OS, and arguably the best desktop OS of its day. Don't get me wrong. Microsoft software was crap…

>Microsoft software was not 'utter crap'. it wasn't but... >Word won by virtue of being better than WordPerfect. Excel won by being better than lotus Excel and Word won by virtue of being bundled and thus cheaper than buying Lotus 1-2-3 and WordPerfect separately. >IE 5 was a better browser than Netscape 4, though in that case its superiority was not why it won No, because the battle was won by IE 4, by being part of…

WinXP (or more precisely Windows 2000) was pretty good operating system. Even Linux kernel developers admit that.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Post by david_mitchell »

It's nice that he is setting a good example but what's really impressive about this is that he has managed to get fb into a state where him taking two months off is actually possible. How many other large company CEOs could do that without a lot of things going wrong?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Post by jacquesm »

gaius wrote: post #248
dimdimdim wrote: post #142

The point is --- there was no real need to even mention this on an FB post! the CEO is also an employee and he could have done this more privately. I hate it when top CEOs try to prove that love "work-life" balance when in reality once you reach the top, its always easy to do the "right thing" in any circumstance. If she would have been pregnant when he just started FB, then would have taken more than 2 days off?

Quite. Just like when the CEO of Yahoo banned working from home, and then had a fully equipped nursery built in the office next to her for the exclusive use of her kids and their full-time nanny.

If I had worked at Yahoo I would have responded by bringing my kids to work. every bloody day.

Really, that's rich.

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Post by ekianjo »

xorcist wrote: post #249
ekianjo wrote: post #209

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I come from the AmigaOS world in the first place, and AmigaOS was leagues ahead of Windows prior to Windows XP, years before - it was multitask, it had datatypes, Arexx scripting language and so on. It was not perfect (lacked memory protection) but nevertheless it was better than Windows 3.1 at the time. As for third parties software, you had better software on non-Windows machines (Photoshop for example used to be a…

Amiga as a platform was proprietary end-to-end. One supplier of hardware, operating system, and even some applications. It's like IBM could have been if Microsoft was in-house to them. Had AmigaOS been cross-platform, things might have developed differently.

I totally agree with you. Just pointing out that AmigaOS was way more advanced than MS-DOS or Windows 3.1 at the time they both existed on PC.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Post by marincounty »

plicense wrote: post #233
wobbleblob wrote: post #174

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What kind of message does it send? Take two months off when you could afford to retire? If I were in his shoes, I'd sell my shares in that website, take a few years off and then go a little Bill Gates, a little Elon Musk. I guess this is why I'm not a successful businessman.

Yeah, if he had waned to make money he had plenty of opportunities before Facebook even went public. He has a vision and he is executing it in all his power, never worrying about how much he earns. This reminds of something Vij Rajarajan(big boss in MSFT) told about - "I have realized almost everything in life is a paradox. If you want to grow in your current role you might think you have to not help out others and w…

What? He waited waited until he had enough people hooked, and then, and only then did he go public.

He gently pricked our arms with ads. When he didn't get much flack; he went hog wild.

This dude is all about the money. Mark didn't want to make a little money--he wanted it all.

Hell, he tried to weasel the original founder's fathers money out of FB. Why--because he wanted the money. Oh, the foreign dude didn't were a hoodie, and a tee shirt to the office?

Exactly what is Mark's vision? It's money. I thought I got him wrong when I heard Internet.org was going to set up as a California nonprofit, but found out that was just rumor. It's not even a Delaware nonprofit. It's for profit! He'll always have complete control.

Personally, I think FB is one of the worst/dictatorial things to happen to the Internet. Will it go away--maybe in certain demographic markets, like the Bay Area. I don't run into people anymore asking me to "FB them.", and when I do go on there a lot of people I know only activate on the weekends. Will the rest of the world ever dislike FB--who knows? They still like disco.

I've hero worshiped very few tech founders. Maybe it's just me, but I always seem to see there worst traights? Maybe because I was screwed over once?

As to all his philanthropic work--it has tax benefits. People lionionize Bill Gates too. I don't get it? We were forced into buying his operating system. It's our money in that nonprofit him, and his wife play God with.

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Post by edc117 »

aianus wrote: post #119
striking wrote: post #116

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And the entire workforce that powers the rich. You seem to forget that capitalism only works when you have a captive group. In order for your life to be good, other people's lives have to be comparatively worse.

Who said anything about capitalism? With that small of an educated population we could sit back, automate everything, and hardly have to compete for resources at all (especially not necessities like food and rent).

You sound very ignorant. I don't mean this in a cruel or insulting way; you just sound like someone who has no idea what that kind of automation entails, the hard work and sweat and physical and mental labor that has gotten us to the point where that automation is viable for a (comparatively) small number of things.

The working class quite literally feed you, clothe you, and keep you safe at night. Get out into the world, learn more about how things are created and whose shoulders you're standing on when you're seeing this golden future of yours.

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Post by toredash »

acangiano wrote: post #7

This is great. It sends the message that no matter who you are, prioritizing family over business is an option, especially when a newborn has arrived. I'm also willing to bet that it's good for business. An employee with better relationships at home is more likely to be productive at work in the long term.

I woukd say 2 months was little, so I'm not really impressed given he could take longer. Not because he is the chwif, but since their policy permits it

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Post by varjag »

mike_hearn wrote: post #242
EdiX wrote: post #239

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>Microsoft software was not 'utter crap'. it wasn't but... >Word won by virtue of being better than WordPerfect. Excel won by being better than lotus Excel and Word won by virtue of being bundled and thus cheaper than buying Lotus 1-2-3 and WordPerfect separately. >IE 5 was a better browser than Netscape 4, though in that case its superiority was not why it won No, because the battle was won by IE 4, by being part of…

Bundling Excel and Word (and more) into a single MS Office product was a masterstroke that definitely helped them, but you can't claim that was some sort of evil monopolistic genius. They developed an integrated suite and that turned out to have value. IE 4 vs Netscape 4 was a lot more complicated. They were technically fairly equal but Microsoft did everything it could to kill off Netscape, including many dirty tact…

> it didn't have bizarre technical quirks caused by endless techno-ideological wars over packaging file formats and the like.

..by means of not having packaging file formats available at all, in true spirit of Microsoft. Hell people couldn't open zip archives on out-of-the-box XP.

Windows was plain not ready for desktop in 2001, but you use what you have to use.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Will Take Two Months Off from Facebook for Paternity Leave

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Post by jusben1369 »

keerthiko wrote: post #187
wobbleblob wrote: post #174

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What kind of message does it send? Take two months off when you could afford to retire? If I were in his shoes, I'd sell my shares in that website, take a few years off and then go a little Bill Gates, a little Elon Musk. I guess this is why I'm not a successful businessman.

Unlike Microsoft was to Bill Gates, Facebook seems to embody Mark's lifelong ideologies (connecting everyone in the world). He has often said he doesn't see himself doing anything with his life other than building the future of Facebook, just in a different form if Facebook hadn't taken off. On the other hand Gates just hit the lottery on one of the projects he worked on related to a field he was good at, when what h…

Don't forget age too. I suspect in another 10-15 years Mark might need a new challenge just like Bill did.
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