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Drupal 8.0.0 released

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Re: Drupal 8.0.0 released

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Post by stevejburge »

thibaut_barrere wrote: post #42
ohthehugemanate wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would suggest you consider drupal as a basis for your fully custom sites. You start out of the box with a well supported, standards based system for the basics: user management/authentication, data modeling/storage/query, routing, path handling, HTML templating etc etc. It has a huge ecosystem of modules, also effectively out of the box, for third party integrations and all sorts of esoteric requirements. So you st…

Great - thanks everyone for your replies! This looks interesting indeed. May I ask what is your preferred way to learn Drupal for a total newcomer, albeit a truly seasoned developer?

Where to start? There's a complete Drupal 8 Beginner class available on YouTube now: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtaXuX0nEZk9MKY_ClWcP...

Re: Drupal 8.0.0 released

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Post by stevejburge »

If you're interested in ramping up quickly with Drupal 8, there's a completely free Drupal 8 class available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtaXuX0nEZk9MKY_ClWcP...

There's over 60 videos. It's sponsored by http://Acquia.com (the biggest fish in the Drupal pond) and created by http://OSTraining.com, who are one of the top sources for Drupal videos.

Re: Drupal 8.0.0 released

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Post by x5n1 »

stevejburge wrote: post #62

If you're interested in ramping up quickly with Drupal 8, there's a completely free Drupal 8 class available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtaXuX0nEZk9MKY_ClWcP... There's over 60 videos. It's sponsored by http://Acquia.com (the biggest fish in the Drupal pond) and created by http://OSTraining.com , who are one of the top sources for Drupal videos.

From what I can see, very little UI differences between D7 and D8, most D7 and D6 developers should be right at home with D8.

Re: Drupal 8.0.0 released

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Post by ekaln »

x5n1 wrote: post #63
stevejburge wrote: post #62

If you're interested in ramping up quickly with Drupal 8, there's a completely free Drupal 8 class available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtaXuX0nEZk9MKY_ClWcP... There's over 60 videos. It's sponsored by http://Acquia.com (the biggest fish in the Drupal pond) and created by http://OSTraining.com , who are one of the top sources for Drupal videos.

From what I can see, very little UI differences between D7 and D8, most D7 and D6 developers should be right at home with D8.

Partially true.

Yes, there's definitely very few UI changes between D7 and D8 ... so sitebuilders should feel right at home.

However, everything has changed in the codebase, so developers have a lot of learning to do.

Re: Drupal 8.0.0 released

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Post by jlahijani »

SwellJoe wrote: post #35

I have very mixed feelings about Drupal. On one hand, it does have a lot of functionality available in third party modules; but the quality and completeness of them varies wildly , and most require custom code in order to be useful. Another issue is maintenance. I don't think I've ever met a well-maintained contrib module; even ones that seem to be actively maintained aren't what I would call "well" maintained...repo…

May I suggest taking a strong look at ProcessWire? You only need to deal with fields, templates and pages and all content is in a simple to understand tree hierarchy. I switched to it from WordPress 2.5 years ago and haven't looked back. Great developer community as well.

Re: Drupal 8.0.0 released

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SwellJoe wrote: post #35

I have very mixed feelings about Drupal. On one hand, it does have a lot of functionality available in third party modules; but the quality and completeness of them varies wildly , and most require custom code in order to be useful. Another issue is maintenance. I don't think I've ever met a well-maintained contrib module; even ones that seem to be actively maintained aren't what I would call "well" maintained...repo…

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Re: Drupal 8.0.0 released

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Post by snowwrestler »

Scoundreller wrote: post #48
0x4a42 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is mainly because a front end developer can vomit into a PHP file and Wordpress will gladly display it. This made me laugh, but it's, alas, very true. In WP's ecosystem, the code you find in plugins, themes and WP itself will just makes your eyes bleed.

While in Drupal, you'll get a white-screen-of-death that can be hard to back out of...

I can tell you from experience that WSOD is plenty achievable in Wordpress too.

Re: Drupal 8.0.0 released

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Post by spdionis »

I like that people are constructively discussing about Drupal without bashing PHP. I'm pretty surprised about it. Good luck to the Drupal project. Being a symfony developer myself I know that it's a great framework and Drupal surely benefited a lot from the integration.

Re: Drupal 8.0.0 released

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Post by Albright »

Scoundreller wrote: post #48
0x4a42 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is mainly because a front end developer can vomit into a PHP file and Wordpress will gladly display it. This made me laugh, but it's, alas, very true. In WP's ecosystem, the code you find in plugins, themes and WP itself will just makes your eyes bleed.

While in Drupal, you'll get a white-screen-of-death that can be hard to back out of...

Not if you don't have the stupid PHP filter installed (it was ripped out of core for the Drupal 8 release, praise be to the heavens; for those unfamiliar, it was basically plus eval()) and you're using decent version control.

Re: Drupal 8.0.0 released

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Post by Albright »

rybosome wrote: post #59

One of the most challenging projects I've worked on was building a Drupal 7 site. I was fresh out of college and had absolutely no Drupal experience. In retrospect, I am confident that there were likely easier ways to do many of the things which I wanted, but at the time everything felt like an uphill battle. The biggest challenge was the UI; I had to build something against mocks from photoshop, meaning it had to be…

Aside from the inexperience issue (D7 and later really do give you the power to override theming on just about anything), you should never promise a client that a web design will replicate a mock-up with pixel perfection. It's impossible; there's just too much that's out of your control. A web design mock-up is more of a guideline that can be followed pretty closely, but never perfectly replicated.
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