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#1
Well, I've just received my first unsolicited commercial email to the address I've advertised in my profile here. Given that it takes some effort to extract it, I'm not concerned that this might be the start of a flood, and given that it's advertising for applicants to join a start-up currently in stealth and going beta in February, it's mostly "on topic."

It is, however, unsolicited "commercial" email.

Via HN.

It's a shame. I'd come to think of HN as somewhere a bit special, and that's gradually being eroded, which makes me sad.

(EDIT: That last bit used to to read "Shame." but it was misinterpreted, so I've expanded it.)

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#3
I got my first spam today too. It must be the same one.

The most annoying part was that they were looking for people to work at Stanford, CA while I am here in Bangalore, India.

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#4
"It is, however, unsolicited "commercial" email.

Via HN."

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought your email was available on your profile page for anyone to read and extract. So as far as I can see all this means is that someone is trawling HN profiles for email of likely startup employees and sending out email.

How is this different from posting your email on any web page anywhere on the Internet? I would imagine if you publish your email on an investments discussion board you'd get spam about "lucrative investment opportunities". How is this any different? Publish your email id anywhere (including your own pages) and you'll get spam. How is this new? And what is with all the drama about "via HN"?

"Shame" (EDIT: this has been edited in the submission. Originally it was just this one word on a line by itself)

huh? Are you asking the spammer to feel shame? Or are you surprised spammers trawled HN and suggesting HN readers (or moderators) feel shame?

(fwiw I got this message too. "Mark as spam". Done).

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#6
I got one... I wonder how many they sent out.

For anyone else considering doing this, please just submit it as a story.

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#7
I got one too, perhaps to everyone on the leader board? Though, it's not the first that I've gotten via HN.

The thing is I find it find for people to do recruiting over HN, but if they don't have the time to read my profile, then I don't have time to not flag their mail as spam and delete with prejudice.

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#8
post #3

I got my first spam today too. It must be the same one. The most annoying part was that they were looking for people to work at Stanford, CA while I am here in Bangalore, India.

so no daily commute?

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#9
Ok, the email in your profile requires a human to interpret it, but this is still most likely the case (I got that spam too).

If someone got it on the non-public email used for YC submissions, it would be a different story (HN security compromised, or someone with legitimate access to these addresses leaking them).

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#10

"It is, however, unsolicited "commercial" email. Via HN." Please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought your email was available on your profile page for anyone to read and extract. So as far as I can see all this means is that someone is trawling HN profiles for email of likely startup employees and sending out email. How is this different from posting your email on any web page anywhere on the Internet? I would im…

  > Please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought
  > your email was available on your profile page
  > for anyone to read and extract.
Yes it is.

  > So as far as I can see all this means is that
  > someone is trawling HN profiles for email of
  > likely startup employees and sending out email.
Almost. They are trawling HN profiles for emails of anyone on HN. Even a tiny amount of research would show that I'm not the sort of person they want, I'm not in a location that's likely to be of assistance, and I don't have the skills they're looking for.

It's bulk email, sent to semi-automatically harvested email addresses, with no underlying research or targetting.

  > How is this different from posting your email
  > on any web page anywhere on the Internet?
Clearly it isn't.

  > And what is with all the drama about "via HN"?
You seem to have a different concept of "drama" than I do, but I'll accept that.

  >> Shame
  > Are you asking the spammer to feel shame?
  > Or are you surprised spammers trawled HN
  > and suggesting HN readers (or moderators)
  > feel shame?
No, I think it's a shame that I've got spam through this source. I am saddened - not really sure why. I guess I've come to think of HN as different from "other forums." That impression is being eroded, bit by bit.

  > (fwiw I got this message too. "Mark as spam". Done).
Good for you. Sadly, this is so close to other emails I get that are relevant to consultancy work I do that my spam filtering didn't catch it. Indeed, I'm not using it to train my spam filters because it is so close.

As someone else said - welcome to the internet.

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