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Square Prices Its IPO at $9, giving it a $2.7B valuation

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Re: Square Prices Its IPO at $9, giving it a $2.7B valuation

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According to crunchbase, they raised money at a $3.25B valuation in 2012. If they are IPOing at $2.66B now, that means a lot of stock options granted in-between are going to be worthless, unless they were granted at some very different price...

In my experience incentive stock options that companies give to employees normally are heavily discounted.

From my experience it's hard to discount more than ~70% or the IRS starts to complain.

Re: Square Prices Its IPO at $9, giving it a $2.7B valuation

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Yes, Square's private per share prices: Series A: $0.21627 Series B: Series C: $5.79817 Series D: $11.014 Series E: $15.46345 IPO @ $9 is not great for lots of folks, but mostly late-stage employees (assuming D & E investors have a liquidation preference - though I don't know for sure).

Series E investors got a ratchet guaranteeing $18.56 per share: http://techcrunch.com/2015/11/10/squares-s-1-of-ratchets-and...

what about the common? i think that was the gist of the comment...do the ESOPs pay out in preferred?

edit: below comment mentions using comp rsus

Re: Square Prices Its IPO at $9, giving it a $2.7B valuation

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Confusingly, my browser renders that symbol () as a... square.

Chrome, it's a 't' surrounded by italicized parentheses. Unsuccessfully searched for unicode lookup to find the text description of the character. Edit: at http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/search.htm?q=%E... I found: Not sure what to make of it. Apple decided to assign to a Unicode character their logo. Does anyone have context?

Chrome Mac renders it correctly.

Re: Square Prices Its IPO at $9, giving it a $2.7B valuation

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Series E investors got a ratchet guaranteeing $18.56 per share: http://techcrunch.com/2015/11/10/squares-s-1-of-ratchets-and...

what about the common? i think that was the gist of the comment...do the ESOPs pay out in preferred? edit: below comment mentions using comp rsus

Strike prices on common are almost always far far below what investors are paying for preferred shares.

Re: Square Prices Its IPO at $9, giving it a $2.7B valuation

#38

According to crunchbase, they raised money at a $3.25B valuation in 2012. If they are IPOing at $2.66B now, that means a lot of stock options granted in-between are going to be worthless, unless they were granted at some very different price...

In my experience incentive stock options that companies give to employees normally are heavily discounted.

It is a bit more nuanced than that. Employees are given options for Common shares rather than preferred shares. Since preferred have voting rights and other perks (like liquidation preferences) they are worth more than common. The value of common stock is determined by a 409a evaluation which takes a lot of different factors into account, but it is not unusual for Common shares to be valued at 1/10th the value of preferred shares.

Re: Square Prices Its IPO at $9, giving it a $2.7B valuation

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome, it's a 't' surrounded by italicized parentheses. Unsuccessfully searched for unicode lookup to find the text description of the character. Edit: at http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/search.htm?q=%E... I found: Not sure what to make of it. Apple decided to assign to a Unicode character their logo. Does anyone have context?

Chrome Mac renders it correctly.

Since it's a character in Unicode's "private use area," its correct rendering is unspecified. (That code point's "use and interpretation may be determined by private agreement among cooperating users" according to the Unicode standard.)
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